Check out the interview with Alex Jones on Anders Behring Breivik as a Masons’ patsy on RT.
http://www.infowars.com/alex-jones-anders-behring-was-masons-patsy/
Breivik was a freemason belonging to the St Johannes lodge according to some media sources and he also mentioned terror cells in Austria in his so-called manifesto. The funeral of freemason Otto Habsburg in Vienna recently was attended by high-ranking elite freemasons including Prince Michael of Kent from England and freemason royalty from Luxembourg.
Indications that Breivik carried out a false flag terror attack in Norway to allow for the roll out of a police state are numerous and include:
*Police took 90 minutes to arrive on Utoya island
*Police knew the name of Anders Behring Breivik before they arrested him
*Police allegedly used tear gas: no shoot to kill policy more usual for gunmen in similar situations
*Brevik was allowed past security check point after a phone call to the island youth camp organisers informing them a police officer would carry out an inspection following the bomb explosion in Oslo, says Norway’s Dagbladet
*Security guard Simon Braenden Mortensen allowed Brevik onto Utoya: a fake ID?
*A police officer should have been on the island due to a visit by former Prime Minister Gro Harlem Brundtland on Friday
*Brevik carried out the executions of his victims with military planning and precision; evidence of others involved
* Breivik registered a company employing more than 700 people, contradicts official version of him as a failure
*Breivik’s manifesto is largely taken from 1995 una bomber Theodore Kacyznski
*Christian added to his facebook profile after the terror attack to justify profiling Christians as terrorists and arresting them preventatively
>http://www.solidprinciples.com/blog/anders-behring-breivik-facebook-profile-a-fake/
*Austrian Interior Minister Johann Mikl-Leitner today used the Breivik false flat attack to call for anti terror laws similar to the emergency laws introduced by Adolf Hitler in 1933 to allow for the large scale arrest of political opponents as a “preventative measure”. The European Arrest Warrant would allow Austrian judges to arrest political opponents throughout EU. Laws are illegal under the principles condified under the Nuremberg Judges Trial of 1947. Austria was the only country to support a proposal by the EU to raise its own taxes.
http://oe1.orf.at/artikel/282273
Well, there we have it. Its the fanfar to open the season on political opponents, like I already said. And, like I also mentioned, they needed a fall Guy to attract attention away from themselves, to the lone nutcase culprit. Its all so obvious. Now, everything depends on how good they can tell their lie story to the major public. If the major public does not buy it and stand up, yelling, “Its all phoney! The lone nut case did not do it alone! He was guided out of the background by high military and state offificials!”, the perpetrators would fail. But this would take a brain, and that is, what the major public does not have anymore…-
This very much looks like a mind-controlled brainwashed zombie stripped of his real personality and reprogrammed to become a soulless killing machine, recklessly manipulated to carry out a sinister plan of some masonic type organization. No-one could be such a super-idiot by birth and it is known that the CIA and secret organizations have developed very effective methods for such control.
It has been alleged that NATO’s secret terrorist group Gladio would carry out a false-flag attack in Berlin in June and blame some islamic group for it (making it look like a revenge for BLaden’s death, even though the guy probably died from health problems years before the alleged killing), and that it was stopped due to the fact that too much had leaked about these plans in advance. So it appears that they instead activated a “Plan B” to use this preprogrammed robot in order to create a situation that can be used as an excuse for new ways of tight control of society and individual freedom.
I agree. The Guy must have been under some kind of brainwashing environment for quite some period of time to get him so far as to believe, killing masses of innocent children would in the end accomplish anything good. One has to be of a twisted mind to believe that.
Hitler made freemasonry illegal. It was against the law for them to meet either in secret or in the open. He was not all that stupid, was he?
Wasn’t the Thule organization something comparable to freemasonry?
I believe the Thule society had never anything secretiv about it. It was and is more of a historic research society, looking into bygone cultures and their believe systems, especially those of arien heritage. One can not realy say that they are a secret society, since they are open to anyone and there are no rites of entry or passage, although some people try to make it out as such, its not an secret but an open society. I am on the website of the Thule Gesellschaft often enough to consider myself a member. Do you believe I am a kind of freemason or something like that?
http://www.thule-gesellschaft.org/
You know, I grew up after the war, and I had the priviledge to live among former members of the SS and former inmates of the nearby concentration camp. If anyone ever wanted to learn about the German NS time, one could not do it better then by listening to them arguing amongst each other…-
Lies, confusion, misinformation, censorship,Free Masons, Right , left. Fascist , Communist ,Moslims, Christians, Jewish, knight of Malta and more crazy stuff in the mental melting pot. When will people realise that officially Politicians and their backers no matter where they are lie 93% of the time and that the remaining 7% they utter is only the truth because it suits them. at the time.
How could I believe that Carlitos would be a mason after he praised Hitler for forbidding it? Some very few things that guy did were probably quite OK. Such as forbidding that machines do work humans can, which was an effective way to reduce unemployment.
Nevertheless, Adolf was crazy and I doubt that Thule wasn’t in part secret, even though a peripheral group maybe wasn’t. Could it be that Adolf didn’t want competition to his own evilness?
Here is a link I tried to post, but it somehow disappeared:
http://info.kopp-verlag.de/hintergruende/europa/gerhard-wisnewski/norwegen-attentate-anschlag-auf-die-konservative-revolution.html
Strange, now my links are back…
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You must have heard of the effort of Google and Microsoft to lend the ruling elite a hand by filtering opposing webinformation? So please dont use a Browser from Google or Microsoft, since the filtersystems could come as browser updates, whether noticed or not…-
WorldPress.com is a gigantic plattform for Bloggers of all kind. Its world wide reach and its diversity in ideologies surely make it a wanted target for the elites controll effort. Taking actions against Blog content as such, by deleting or changing them, would be all to noticeble. So what is nearer then to at least cut the information outreach by stopping links?
This is something one allways has to reckon with. On the other hand I found, that the WordPress software as such, has certain intern problems with some links, for instance video links with unusual endings, endings that might be new and are not registered yet as valid link endings within the software. So the software sais to itself “I dont know this kind of link. I am certain it does not exist”, so it wont exist within the software. Capic?
So, could we agree upon these facts and stop to make it an issue, everytime problems with links show up?
Let us please not get into arguments about the worth or unworthiness of Hitler. But at least let us try to agree upon, that history has been twisted a lot by the winners of the world war, as is usual, and let us carefully separate what we believe because we were endlessly told so and what we realy know…-
Someone wanted WW2 and it may not really have been AH from the beginning, but someone who made him have it. But who can deny that he caused enormous destruction and millions of deaths?
War is always the most ridiculous primitiveness of mankind…
It has been discussed back and forth and up and down how many Jews died in the camps. But even if much fewer did, they were any way too many!
And now Israelis repeat some of that against Palestinians… some never learn…
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fortunately, there are now a few brave historians coming forward, trying to uncover the truth, that has been twisted and covered so badly. Here are two of them. They are dodgy links, so I dont know if they will show. I’ll try:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1MOTRIdVuQ&feature=player_detailpage
In case they dont show, google “AZK Geheimakte Hess” and “David Irving Churchills war”
Try it again.
By the way, what did you say? There were to many jews anyway? Well, I must say, arent you a nasty person!
Well FUCK!
There you see! It all depends on how you put the bastards in. And it has to do with luck also, since the video link above, that only showed as writing, should have shown as a player but did not. So I used the same link again, and voila, it showed up as a player. Thats why we now have the same video twice. You see, many things can be uncovered by simple experiment…-
One of the David Irving videos came up by pasting the Video URL, the second one showed up because I pasted the Video embed code. So, both will bring the same result, a player with the video, but only if your lucky and the WordPress software is not suffering a momentary glitch…
“So, could we ….stop to make it an issue, everytime problems with links show up? “
Holunderstrauch reprimanding EUthanasia (for a change)
and not long after: “Well FUCK!
There you see! It all depends on how you put the bastards in. And it has to do with luck also, since the video link above, that only showed as writing, should have shown as a player but did not. So I used the same link again, and voila, it showed up as a player. Thats why we now have the same video twice. You see, many things can be uncovered by simple experiment…- “
blablas Holunderstrauch
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Of course, if he himself is doing the s a m e thing it’s something d i f f e r e n t…
And insulting and libelling visitors here (accusing MH of some „brazen fraud“ because of telling that some links won’t show up etc) – is no issue at all. Of course not.
So it’s Holunderstrauch, Holunderstrauch, Holunderstrauch all over the place – Nice!
Nasty persons everywhere – but Holunderstrauch himself is such a sweetie…
In any case the “Auschwitz lie” is a lie by itself. If you believe otherwise, that’s your problem. Jews definitely were killed, the only uncertainty is, how many. And an open question still is: “Why?”! So were gypsies, homosexuals and others. As I said, in this respect even few killed are too many… (joke about it if you like).
And don’t you agree that much the same is now repeated by Israel to the Palestinians? Even though the killing may be to a lesser amount? Have you been in Israel? If you hire a car and drive around you get a road map with greyed-out “islands” marked: “Under Palestinian administration”, and people say: “Don’t enter there”. This means that Palestinians have to live in GHETTOs like the Jews had to do in the “Großdeutsches Reich”… History repeats itself…
But this is, of course, a side-issue to the subject of this blog and I suggest that with stick to what we really discuss here!
Oh, I can tell you WHY,
but there is not much else I can aree on with you, and its not my problem either, if it is a problem at all, I would not know whos it is, but in any case, its not mine…-
I can not say much more because otherwise I risk ending up in prison. Does’nt that alone make you think and see clearly about any truthfullness??
Oh, Holunderstrauch presenting himself as “political prisoner” making excuses for his lies – what a poor, little creature. The whole world has done him wrong.
I was born in Dachau, a few hundert meters away from the camp. The empty and shunned camp was my playground when I was little. I played hide and sick and hidd in the ovens. I would have a lot to say about it, if I was not threatend by prison. I grew up among former concentration camp inmates, some of which had been through Auschwitz. I talked to them and I listend to them many many long summer evenings. They talked very openly, since they had nothing left to hide and no agenda yet.
I can see what happens in Palestine, and I am not a friend of it.
I have spent a great part of my life as a politcal prisoner because I dared to live what I believed in, I have been tortured and I saw people die left and right of me because they succumbed to the torture. There is no nessecity at all, to teach me about truth whatsoever. I already know a lot.
Oh, Holunderstrauch is a h e r o !!!
He saw “people die left and right of me because they succumbed to the torture.”
He’s the ONLY ONE who kows… lecturing everybody here.
No wonder many visitors are just pissed off.
Now we have come far off the track and let us get back to it with a LAST comment from my side. First I wonder to how many Jewish survivors you can have spoken to, since most of them will have left Germany. I agree that Zionist Khazar pseudo-Jews (converted, cf. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AIKQHO0esk) took power and wanted to get rid of the real Jews, since they considered them to be too soft and too integrated in Western cultures, and that this could possibly be another secret driving force behind the holocaust. That a big business has been made of the holocaust is beyond discussion. I understand that you don’t deny killing of Jews by the Nazis, since you give an explanation for “Why?”…
By the way, Yahweh is not the real creator god, but what the Gnostic Christians called a “Demiurge” and a lesser, cruel god. When Jesus talked about “father” he meant the original creator, higher than Yahweh. The latter led the Hebrews out of Egypt to the “promised land”. But the land wasn’t free! People lived in it in towns and (according to Moses) Yahweh said: “Now kill all of them and don’t spare a child, a woman nor an old man, so that you can live in houses you haven’t built, drink from wells you haven’t dug and eat olives from trees you haven’t planted!” (see, a.o., Deut 6:10-11 and Num 31:14-18 + many other). They in a criminal way stole the land from its original inhabitants by brute force. That Yahweh had promised them the land doesn’t mean that the original creator God did! I suppose that Yahweh later was dissatisfied with the “soft” real Jews and set the Khazars in motion to replace them…
No no, its a rumour that they all left Germany after being liberated from camps by allied forces. Its also a rumour that they were all in Camps. We had some Jews living right nextdoor to us. They were old men by then, I remember one, being a rather quite fellow named Silbernagel. My grandmother always used to laugh about him because he had such an obvious jewish name. The other one was a more jolly Guy, he had naked women tattoed all over his body. Those are the two I remember best after half a century. But there also were others. Since most of the baraks were occupied by families exept theirs, it was called the “Jungesellenheim”. The space they occupied and the space I lived in together with my grandparents, was separeted only by a wall out of thin wooden planks. So we almost lived together.
My granfather was a former member of the SS. He and the Jews used to sit together in front of the barak on a wooden bench enjoing the afternoon and evening sun, talking for hours and drinking beer out of bottles they grabbed right out of a crate standing next to them (It was my job to get the beer from a shop across the creek) nono, you are mistaken when you say, they all left Germany first chance they got. It is simply not true.
And by the way, I dont care what anybody calls Creator God. I call the Great Creator God YES and I have good reasons for it…-
Just go and look how many Jews live in Dachau today. Many of them are decendents of former camp inmates that staid right there in Dachau after being liberated from the camp. And why not? They recieved financial compensation, like every other liberated Camp inmate, whether Jewish or not, they built houses, opend businesses and kept living their lifes like everybody else. I do believe, you have been told a lot of crap and unfortunately, you still believe it. But thats your problem.
Jews were not “Concentration camp survivers”, that is what they have made themselfs into, they were simply survivers of the great war, like other camp inmates, jewish or not…-
“My granfather was a former member of the SS. He and the Jews used to sit together in front of the barak on a wooden bench enjoing the afternoon and evening sun, talking for hours and drinking beer out of bottles they grabbed right out of a crate standing next to them (It was my job to get the beer from a shop across the creek) nono, you are mistaken when you say, they all left Germany first chance they got. It is simply not true.”
lecturing Holunderstrauch (painting such an idyllic picture)
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Just wondering if his grandfather’s SSideas brought him into prison (if anything of Holunderstrauch’s narrative has even a shread of truth in it)
Not all of them. Some stayed, who were too old. Or for other personal reasons. But a very large number obviously will have left, even if not immediately.
Now let’s get back to the real issue!
I already said: Separate very carefully things you have been told or you have read endlessly and things you know for sure are true. Most of the things you have been told or you have read ENDLESSLY, are not true. Their endlessliness is theyr mark of lie. The amount of negativ war propaganda, poured over Germans after the war until this very day, is so tremendously much that it is not and easy task, to digg yourself out of it.
Look at yourself. You are such a truth seeker, that you are here on this blog. You are bright enough to realize, the world shown to you is but a movie, being played, so you wont see those who orchestrate reality. But still you are caught in a gigantic web of hear-say and deception.
Truth, rather sooner then later, always speaks for itself. It does not need to be repeated endlessly to stay believable. Its only lies that have such a short live span, that they have to be pumped up continously over and over and over again to keep them believable.
So I suggest to you, what is told to you in word and writing endlessly over and over and over again, is not truth, its a web that is supposed to keep you in captivity…-
And I should then believe what I am told by you, and you keep telling me, endlessly, if this goes on…
I prefer to evaluate information that I have and think for myself.
You’ve got it, EUthanasia.
His preposterous lecturing is getting on your nerves?
It’s NICE, isn’t it?
Well, you do know that the last thing you wrote is dumb…
I dont care, what you believe. I dont care what the truth is, as long as I find it and whether you find it or not, is none of my business, its yours…-
twisting everthing around – as usual…
Please be careful of our ability to evaluate information.
I for one am aware of a trigger mechanism in me that doesn’tlike to be told there are things i don’t /can’t yet understand.
It’s my false ego and i don’t like it and I won’t let it guide me.
No one is threatening me with what they say really. I have nothing to defend. I don’t know what happened. I wasn’t born.
I can only ask those who it happened to and either believe them or not according to my instincts and my experience of life only.
I don’t see a great differnece between Palestine and a large concentration camp. I would hate to be locked in like that
Like any other animal, I would hate to be locked in any way.
What I can see is that the whole region and the world is occupied by some deadly ideology.
As far as i can tell commetators here catch glmpses of something horrible lurking behind our daily reality.
It is the snake of old – the Lie about who we are.
“I am not born, I will not die, I am nothing, but please don’t stand on my toe.” – Mary O’Halloran, Irish Zen saint.
spirit is “nothing”?
My goodness…
Thanks, darkside, I take it as an answer to Carlitos who seems to not respect that I may have a certain ability to think for myself and thus evaluate information I get, unless I get to the same result as he. I have talked to people he has obviously not been able to talk to. This has given me an impression that differs in certain ways, and we don’t like to have deviant impressions forced upon us, but expect to be respected for our opinion. Everyone can be wrong, after all, even Carlitos and me.
You are getting to know him and his ways at last…
I dont think any decent person likes what happens in Palestine. And it takes my breath away when I come across people who think they have to remind me of a past jewish suffering, while I see them make others suffer.
So what are we talking about? We are not talking at all, we are reacting like robots towards threads to our believes, that have been implanted into us massively scientifically since 70 years for financial gain and the gathering of power of a small group of people. Thats what the whole Jew shit is about. And I am fed up with it!
And in the end, cant you see, that truth never in the history of mankind needed protective laws. A truth can be recognized by every human being, no matter where it comes from or what its cultural or educational background. Its only lie that needs to be protected by law, so no truth comes near to destroy it. So why is it forbidden by law to talk about certain things of the past if they are oh so true??!! Why am I bound by law and threatend with prison in this very moment while writing, and withheld to tell things that could help separate truth from lie? Cui bono? I ‘ll tell you who bono. The Jews bono! Since when have the Jews been so famous for telling the truth that now their truth needs legal protection? For heavens sake! Wake up!
Actually, Carlitos – to get back on the track – this guy Breivik could (and most probably would) talk in similar ways about his extremely distorted views (very much more distorted than yours and mine). Consider that for a while…
I dont give a *hit about the views of a child murder. And by the way how come you be so sure about his views. Do you know him or have you talked to him? Dont be surprised if the authorities make the views for him. Do not you know the hearings are behind closed doors. Why? A public crime should have public present. But no. That is not the case. Any BS
may come out about this guys views and no one of us will not have the slightest clue.
Do NOT put any attention to this guy and his views cause you will all be fooled. Listening to a child murder and his views? It is a shame. Do you feel such guy is reliable and worth any confidence?
I dont see much distortion in my views. They are quite consistent with my experience with humans and even consistent with history as far as we know it to be true. I dont know whats wrong with that Norwegian Guy, I dont know if there is anything wrong with him, since the only information I have about him is untrustworthy. Looking at his pictures and those of his face, he looks like a intelligent Guy, knowing what he is doing. Above that, I no nothing about him. I have only been told things, most of which clearly are lies.
I dont use the information coming out of Norway to figure out that Guy. I try to use it to figure out what the people who clearly orchestrated this event are up to in general and up to next in particulare.
The only ones I trust about these things and what is said in Norway are the youngsters.
If you need to know the truth. Listen to them. But not even the authorities take their testimonies seriously as they were talking about TWO guys around. But that is not even mentioned in mainstream media.
Yea, strange enough. I guess, the fact that they ignore what the surviving children have to say points strongly towards their desire to falsefie the information regarding the event.
“I dont see much distortion in my views. ” Holunderstrauch prides himself.
His lies, insults, curses, defamation and libel is filling pages here…
Oh, I forgot. It’s all truth and nothing but truth.
Holunderstrauch’s truth made up of lies.What a hypocrite.
Oh yea, IT is back! The hatefull, suspicion and allegation spreadind psychopathic Creature roams again… Have’nt you found a proper doctor yet, Daisy? Ran out of medicine?
No one sees the distortion in his own views and everyone (often unconsciously) seeks out the experience that defends them. We adjust our perception to see what is consistent with our views and believe no more than that. This is normal human psychology. As is written: “And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?” (Matth 7:3).
Thats not true. One can realize ones own distortion by comaring oneself with life serving aspects, ones life experience, known history and contemporary surrounding. Look. Its all a bunch of bollocks. You have been told not to trust yourself and your own perception, so you dont dare to and you invent justifications for it as not to admit, you have been moldet that way by others. Its a old story I am growing tired of.
Like I said. I dont know the Norwegian Guy, I cant say anything about him. I can see though, what infuencial politicians in cooperation with a willing media are trying to create out of the information that reaches us from Norway. Thats much more interesting to me then what goes on in the head of that Guy.
Of course it is true! But that is also a distortion we don’t like to see. “I see the truth all the others don’t” can be quite a dangerous attitude, for others – and for oneself!. I agree that politicians and media are trying to use the incident to manipulate us and our views, but can you really see how and in what way? That they do it, yes, but what is the manipulation here is really hard to decipher. One thing, however, appears quite clear: they want to make an excuse out of it to tighten social and individual control.
Sometimes they manipulate things unintentionally. Because of their stupidity and unability to put 2 and 2 together. Other times they do it intentionally to serve some media magnats intentions.
Never believe your opponent to be dumb, greenberry. In certain situations, this can even cost your life…-
Mankind is in a serious struggle for existence. We are being poisoned, made sterile and genetically changed by the will of satanic bastards. They are mixing insect, animal and plant DNA and feed the outcome to us, they are mixing human and animal DNA creating chimaeras last seen on this earth in biblical times. There is no time for junk psychological navel observations. Trust yourself and go forward. Every error you make is to your advantage.
ONLY if you LEARN from your errors…
Jews never have been known as friends of truth. So why do I have to remind, that they lie? Its a modern crippeling afliction, not to trust one self because ones perception is oh so distorted, which calls for guidence that readily will be given by those who dont wish us well. So why do I have to remind, that such psychological excursions are useless?
Again, trust yourself and go forward. Every error you make is to your advantage, in case you survive it. If you dont, you have proof of your distortion, proof that you and your perception couldnt be trusted. So now, please, march on without me.
EVERYONE lies, more or less! And trust myself is certainly what I do…
There is a slight diverence between lying that I was not to work yesterday because I was sick when I was not, and forcing the greater part of the world into obedience through lying. But what the fuck! I’ll probably end up in prison again for expressing my thoughts. But even that does not ring a bell with you, does it?
Some people do make bells ring for many… try to understand that I mean all kinds of lies… especially those that want to manipulate your mind and world view! Individually or globally.
Has it ever occured to you, that instead of fighting what I say, you ought to fight for my right to say it? If you answer with YES, I say, I dont believe you, since you strongly give the impression, you have not reached this insight yet.
I don’t deny your right to say what you want! But I reserve my right, too! Why don’t you defend my right? Who are you to judge my insight? Do I judge yours? Should I, however, not be allowed to comment to it? Is that judging?
Y para los otros, si entienden, ver aqui:
http://www.trinityatierra.com/2011/07/27/masacre-en-noruega-%C2%BFo-va-a-ser-mickey-mouse/
Yea, I am sure your right.
I will tell you something about yourself, I know to be true. You can do with it whatever you want to, but if you ar smart, you take it at heart:
You have been kept from researching certain things, because you have been told, those things are evil lies and researching them is just as evil and simply wrong. You have believed this, and you have not researched because of it. But you should not believe, you should research, no matter who tells you and how often, that you should not, because its lies, its evil and wrong. If you overcome yourself and you do research, regardless what others think of you doing it, I promise, you will find truths that not only will change your mind, they will alter your view of the world… So please, dont obey cowardly, but research fearlessly!
This is the dogma we are born into. We believe what we were told by our parents. And they did believe what their parents told. So
naturally we are born into many lies. Than we have the school system or educational system
with their policies. And it is to our disadvantage being prepared for a certain view. It would had been far better if we were
uneducated from the beginning. Only learning to read and write and learn to put 2 and 2 together. We would than be far much better off and open to truth than after the brainwash. You know all BS put into us make it confusing and harder to see clearly.
I dont consider education as something bad, in the contrary. But we should not be educated by a education system that wants to mold us into functioning parts of the contemporary political power structure. I believe, children should learn by playing. Let children play and they will start to play with things of their interest, they will develop curiosity and emerge as specialists in some field or the other.
I have never been told that and I have always researched what I can find. Also in spiritual realms. Have you?
See what I wrote above about Yahweh. And that the “promised land” wasn’t theirs until they took it by force. The Bible proves that! That casts severe doubts about their claimed right to that land…
But don’t blame Jews globally. They, too, are a mixture of good and bad, like each and every people on Earth and beyond. I know good ones! Or what would you think if I would say that all Germans are lying Nazis?
I agree with you in that. We should be very
careful in the group thinking. That is the strategy that is used to make evil win over
good. 1 evil thing made by one individual in one group make the other 99 in it too evil.
That is a very stupid and unfair thinking. So why are we so stupid? Following the minority evil when the majority good is not that way at all. It is pure stupidity and that is why evil seems to prevail before what is good and right. If we looked more on what is good and right I believe we would be much better off and not influenced so easily by the tyrants ruling. Cause they rule with evil and they also create evil. And they just love to control us thru this group thinking diverting
thing. Setting different groups up against each other and causing wars and death. Which I believe is a very evil thing.
Hell, I can hardly get a word in edge ways.It is quite enlightening to read all the English from largely foreigners by birth. I must say it is getting better by the day. It also shows that we all suffer from dupilcity when applying analysis. The tendency to simplify complex notions for the sake of ease or laziness or to do the exact opposite by turning simple ideas into a complex notions. Especially those that have been planted by others into our minds.. It is just a question of which one of these extremes is applied in any given circumstance. This human tendency not to tell the truth is a defense mechanism learned from birth . This is why lying becomes part of the survival mechanisms that goes on interminably. Lying becomes just a part of ones routine and most people don’t even know that they are not only telling their own lies, but also those of everyone else, especially those that are politically correct. In the case of the massacre in Norway, you can bet that much of what you read and hear is lies, which makes it very hard if not impossible to exact the real truth . We are all good at believing what is tactile with our senses, but anything that is hidden is almost impossible to accept. For instance most people believe that the food we eat is nutritious, the drugs we swallow and the vaccines we inject are safe, and protect us . Yet the damage done is not tangible, except at some later date when the connection between the two is broken by time. and won’t be believed.so much later.In the case of medical drugs and vaccines the arguments always revolve around belief and observed affects on both sides , which the proponents on both sides defend with fanatic religious zeal, as their income ,livelyhood and backnanders often depends on it. No where does one come accross an honest scientific immunological appraisal , Because the real crux of the matter is about something entirely different and that is that one side wants to control the opposing side who seek to be free. Freedom that is what the masses are figting for. Freedom from the Globalist oppressors., But the oppressors are hell bent on turning us into slaves. So whilst we may argue all the detail,at length ,by doing so we end up losing the plot., and that is exactly what the Elite are striving to achieve.
In case of the Norway thing, I reccomend, we listen less to what we are being told and instead look more what fruit it bears. And doing so, I see that there has been an effort to cause social upheaval by frightening Eurpean white christians of what the foreign brown muslims living amongst them might do to them soon. But somehow, it did not lead to the wished for result. So now, the whole game is simply being turned around, by trying to frighten the foreign brown muslims who live amongst the European white christians, what they might do to them soon.
It gives a nice peek into how these people work. First they painted muslims as the terrorist wanting to kill christians, now they are making an effort to paint christians as the evil Guys, trying to kill muslims. “Who cares”, they think among themselfs, “which way around we play the game, as long as the outcome, anarchy in Europe, is the same?!” And their tool is, as always, FEAR.
It is about creating total chaos so that the
criminals may set up the order and rules out of it. It is called ORDER out of CHAOS. Nothing else than problem-reaction-solution strategy. Diversion is one of the means of creating chaos and when we falling into it we are playing their cards as they want. Simple as that.
Taking every development in world politics and science into consideration, there is no doubt in my mind that it all comes down to a world wide war not between muslims and christians, but between those who believe in the existence of a Great Creater Spirit behind it all and those who dont and believe instead, they are like God and free to mess with all creation as it pleases them, for the progression of them will nessecarely lead to the destruction of the others and these others will not sit back and watch themselfs being destroyed. This will cause a break among all of humanity that will crack through races, families and religios believes, when the individual will be forced to either ally with the godless ones or the ones who believe in the existence of the Great Creator God. Thats our future, people, get used to it…-
.- The main target was ‘Gro Harlem Brundtland’.
.- But, ‘casually’, Ms ‘Gro Harlem Brundtland’, take out of the island, just about 30 minutes before come the killer.
And ‘the killer’, kill about 70 young’s.
In chess language :
I your target is the Queen, and you have prepared a lot the game (Years preparing the atack), ¿Why do you kill 70 pawn, just ‘for a casually delay’?.
What a nice delay for Ms ‘Gro Harlem Brundtland’, WHO, and Kissinger related.
I am sure she should go to the funerals of those 70 young’s.
Decency, is a word, and old word.
I remember the attacks on Pope Joan Pablo II, on Ronald Reagan.
¿If Mehmet Ali Agca would have been delayed, he would have started to kill 70 priest or seminarian youngs?.
If the Queen (Chess language) was the target, this has no sense.
No one sense.
He could have delayed to next opportunity.
….What a nice delay for Ms ‘Gro Harlem Brundtland’………
So lets assume the Queen was not the target. The primary target was to cause, for maximum effect, as much hurt as possible on the major public and while doing so, as a clear warning, cause damage to the ruling party.
I am assuming this is a GLADIO operation and they are targeting children. Why? Because that is what give the maximum effect on the hearts of publics. Search Gladio SIMAS. It is a NATO intelligence operation and activity.
It is GLADIOs modus operandi. Remember the Belgium supermarket robberies, where the robbers were exeptionally brutal, killing women, children and elder people seemingly without any sense at all? That was GLADIO, with the aim of spreading sheer terror among the public! So the island shooting does remind a bit of GLADIO. Although the news sais, the Guy was the only shooter, surviving kids claim, there was more then one. Whoever was shooting, he had military training as a marksman. One does not shoot that efficiantly without extensive training.
“The main target was ‘Gro Harlem Brundtland”.
“But, ‘casually’, Ms ‘Gro Harlem Brundtland’, take out of the island, just about 30 minutes before come the killer.”
Not correct. Brundtland’s spokesperson told the media they left the island at 3pm and the bomb in Oslo exploded at 3.26pm. Breivik arrived well over an hour after the Oslo explosion. To me it looks like Brundtland wasn’t a target.
Of course not. Only reality shows the target.
The children murdered were clearly the target. We cant deny that. Or should we think
or believe Breivik was aiming for Brundtland but his bad vision made him mistakingly shoot 70 children instead. Not even Stoltenberg was the target. If he was he would of course get
targeted and eliminated.
Yes, that is what I think. If Gro Harlem Brundtland would have been the target, she would be dead. What speaks for her being the target? Can someone explain? Other then that she has been there and left shortly befor the shooting? And, would it not be a rather weird jump in plan to say, “Oh shucks! Gro Harlem Brundtland just left. What the hell! I’ll kill eighty children instead”. Would that not be a rather weird jump in plan? Why was there so much ammunition present if Gro Harlem Brundtland was the only target??
“Not even Stoltenberg was the target. If he was he would of course get targeted and eliminated.”
Absolutely my point too!
Funny that I wrote a post along these lines at Infowars two days ago, but it’s still awaiting moderation.
Also, one more time thanks to Jane for her insight and courage in bringing on info about the swine flu hoax and various other matters. Lots of positive thoughts to you, Jane!
Sorry. Forgot to put this in…-
I’m tired of this that takes us nowhere and leave the sandbox for you to play in while I go to take a nap…
Yes. Sleep well.
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This jewish thing truely is a mess. There are precious people of jewish decent or aquired religion, I know some of them myself, that one does not want to burden with the negativ attributes, rightfully deserved by others, also calling themselfs Jews. So what I am in need of is a precise term to name the ones without wrongfully burdening the others. If one talks about Zionists, it does not realy fit the picture, or does it? I believe you once mentioned Karzhar Jews who are not even Jews in the first place, but only aquired the jewish religion out of political reasons. So, would that be a precise term to name those who are the rightfull owners of the negativ attributes, that one so easily but wrongfully gives to the Jews as a whole? Karzhar Jews? Or do you know another, more precise term?
It does not have to be a mess Carlitos. In my view jews simply dont exist. No one knows what is a jew and if somebody thinks he is. I guess he is just only fooling himself.
The jew concept was in reality cancelled with the crucification and resurrection Of Christ.
The Truth did set us all free from that jew concept. They may keep on with their rituals
if they think it will save them. Unfortunately I have hard to believe it will. Only making it worse. The only true salvation is in Christ according to the scriptures. And by studying his teachings and acting on them there is an offered solution to the problems we face.
Now, this is something I have never heard before!
But it is said, the Jews are the tribes of Israel, as they had been for instance in Egypt thousands of years ago and have been led into the promised land by Moses. It is said, on is a Jew by birth when the mother was jewish. Then there is the concept of being a jew by religion, and there are the so called eastern jews, who are not related to the tribes of israel at all, they are of the Kazhar nation and aquired jewesh religion by a decret of their king. Thats how I understand it. How can you say, the crucifiction of christ has aresed the concept of being jewish?
Yes there were 12 tribes that had the promises thru Abraham. Those tribes are what
I would call the jews from the times before the crucification. If they would been self sufficient in saving themselves thru keeping the LAW to which the promises to Abraham was given they would be REAL jews.
I simply do not believe there does exist any such perfect jew and that is my point. So even if they are born into the bloodline after the time of the crucification that does not give them any advantage or special treatment compared to none jews at all. Therefore thru Christ we are either all jews or none of us are. And you can of course call them jews if you wish. They may even call themselves that. I am not going to try to change their mind. I know what I stand for. That is enough for me.
But if there were 12 tribes beginning with Abraham or whom ever, and the bloodline went on until today, it is fair to say, these are decendents of the 12 tribes of Israel, thus, Jews. Whatever outsiders aquired the jewish religios believe, is thus not a Jew, but only a believer in Jewish religion. Thus, Kazhar Jews are not Jews at all, they are only believers, or pretenders, of the jewish religios believe. Holy Moses!
I come back to this Gro Harlem Brundtland.
What points to her as having been the original target?
Why carry enough ammunition to kill eighty children if the intention was to shoot only one woman? One round weighs about 25 gramms. If the killer wasted only one round on every victim and we have eighty victims, it would have been two kilogramms of ammo. But it is fair to assume, he used much more. Some victims must have been shot more then one time and its fair to assume that in the hectic that happend after the first shots, people running away in all directions, a lot of shots must have missed. So I assume, the killer must have carried about 4 to 5 kilogramms of ammo with him. Why carry 4 to 5 kilogramms of ammunition, if the intention is to kill one woman??
After the killings the guy did also go around
shooting them in the face. So there was even ammunition for that. Why did he do that? Identification purposes? But why such monstrous behaviour?
No, he must have done that out of pure execution purposes, to make sure they are dead. That was not an ordinary man. That was a military trained person.
Continuing answering Carlitos on the jews matter.
Yes physically or theoretically those descendants of Abraham are jews even today. But I can hardly move back to the 16th century in order to find out my own bloodline. How can they?
Thats a good point that you got there. I never thought of that!
LOL. I did find out that one of my ancestors was placed in some fall-back where the peoples town throw rotten eggs and tomatoes upon him. I do not really care since I do not
take credit for his doings. Whatever any ancestor has done. Good or bad. I guess we are all responsible for our own actions.
Yea, right.
I am just watching “Brave New World”. But that has a very strange episode in it: The part when John Savage gets sent to his Island. He whips himself to drive out what he calls “evil Desires”. How did the Autor get that idea? To guard their own society, they try to make Savage into a ridiculous figure, but it wont work because he has aquired fans by now. Have a look at it yourself, in case you have not seen it yet. Towards the ending, the Autor seemed to have lost his original thread, got a bit confused and messed it all up a bit:
Well, who am I to criticise Aldous Huxley? I am only a small time writer. But still, I am of the opinion, towards the end the Author has lost himself a bit. Why was there a need for John Savage to hang himself? Well, it did show that the Brave New World overwon everything in the end. But still, I would have done it different. It did not have to be like that. The story offered options for an ending. But then, who am I, compared to Aldous Huxley, to change the ending of “Brave New World”?
I find the ongoing discussion very interesting.
I have a couple of disjointed observations which you might like to consider:
As we seem to agree, using several basic behavioral tricks the master class can arouse us plebs emotionally and keep us basically fighting, competing, uneasy and living in disharmony.
One can observe this stuff in the monkey cage at a zoo but nevertheless dominant people seem to always manage to get masses of people constantly taking sides in arguments they start.
A permanent state of throwing custard pies at each other is kept going so that no one stops messing around long enough to do something sensible with their time like toppling the ruling minority peacefully.
If we ever came to our senses this would be done by either starving them of the attention they seek, or just not feeding them food and taxes.
Then there’s the idea of the ‘Nations’ to be gotten rid off.
If one aligns to just one nation- perhaps one should really reconsider.
I don’t even know which nation I belong to because records weren’t kept in the ex Portuguese, Dutch, English colony where I come from. I have some vague rumors about the origins of my grandparents, my father didn’t even have a birth certificate – but still, I knew him and I’m convinced that he was born! I’m very glad to be mixed up on this issue.
Now about that special ‘land’ we all belong to:
Patriotism seems to me to be dipping into something deeper – an old and natural affection for the earth with its regions and its landscapes and its people. This was misused to divide us on the usual ‘Yours is better than mine – No, it’s not!’. ‘I want your oil! No, you can’t have it! etc.
They put the guns into the hands of the youngest and most inexperienced among us and tell them where to aim.
Our love of play and horsing around has been turned into something called ‘competitive sport’ and Olympic games. Competition works with the other man’s grass is always greener, comparisons, inferiority which can lead to envy.
Someone or something is playing with us all:
Consider Dr. Wilhelm Reich’s theory on the ‘Little Man’ and his ‘emotional plague’. Quite the opposite of the calm state of mind, control of the inner self and detachment, control of emotion, the teachings of the Buddha in short. It’s interesting to note that people high up found the psychologist Dr. Reich a threat and worth killing in a U.S. prison.
Ideas regarding human psychology are dangerous because once we learn how we work, we might be able to defend our selves better. As it is we have fallen into a constant state of engineered stress and compete among ourselves. The enemy within so to speak.
As I understand it the ‘reptile brain’ is the primitive brain that first evolved. It developed into the Cortex and the brain has changed and evolved into what is now termed the Neo-Cortex. This is less steered by the basic drives. And here is where our Hope lies.
Yes, there seems to exist a certain crap psychology that is allowed to be learnedby the plebs, to keep them busy and make them believe they have knowledge. But the real psychology, the deeper mechanics of the human soul are envyous kept from us, and if someone comes along, like W. Reich, discovering them and telling us about them, he will be killed. W. Reich, no matter from which angle you approach, is a very interesting case.
But fact is, no matter how well we know our psychology, we lack the means to apply it to the masses in a positiv way. The masters of the dark have control over the media, and that is how they do it.
Patriotism is not a bad thing. Its the love for the ground, the air the water, we were born into. The body consists of a greater part of water. When we are born, we consist for a greater part of the water of our surrounding. And water does not equal water. Patriotism is the love for the ground where the ancestors are burried, the ground they have worked with their hands and drenched with their sweat and blood. Patriotism is okay. For one, it stands in the way of a tyrannical world Government. I know, everytime I get the chance to visit the land of my birth, I live up, my health improves, I feel happier, I breath deeper, its mine, my home, and I love it. The magic of its landscapes lives within my soul.
Some secret organizations have a deep knowledge of psychological methods to apply to masses for mind control! Very dangerous, indeed…
For me there is only one “patriotism”: humankind, that we are all ONE on this planet. And that we accordingly learn unconditional love independent of race, culture, belief system, religion and what have you. But most of us are far from that, very far… What you feel about the land of your birth is mere conditioning, because you happened to grow up there. It would be the same if you were born somewhere else and hence it is very subjective.
I love the ground I am born on because I cant any different. Thats the way my soul works, and I love everybody who feels the same and does me no harm, no matter where he comes from. But I do not sign on to this “I am a world citizen and nothing else” crap, since I see that it has been invented and smuggeld among us to support a world Government that I dont support.
If one walks around the world and asks people of various lands, which land they love the most, which one is nearest to their heart, most of them will answer, “My own”. This is the human way and it does nobody any harm as long as one respects the love of the other to his own land, as long as we respect each other as the humans that we are. What does harm in this world, allways has and allways will, are people who walk around and try to make humans into something which they are not., like world citizens…
It has nothing to do with any world government, on the contrary!
Maybe you will one day understand…
Oh, I do understand. Trying to make humans into something they are not, will always result in violence towards those humans, in order to become, what in original state they are not. Maybe one day, you will understand, maybe, once you have reached my age…-
Sorry, but you do misunderstand…
The brother-sister-hood of all humans means to accept others as they are and not to make them into something else.
Keeping up differences and prejudice about how wrong others are are the bases of wars and violence!
How old are you?
Well, if the brotherhood and sisterhood means to accept each other as we are, namly as Germans, French, Turkish, Arabien, Muslim Christians white and black, then we are not one. How about we respect each other in our differences and fuck being one?
I think there are many things not acceptable
in some brother-sister-hood of all humans. There are way too many. The actions of Breivik
is one and I am very proud of not calling him brother. There are million and millions of examples where such brotherhood simply would not been accepted. And as many the reason why it simply just wouldnt work.
I am happy of being an individual responsible for my own actions. Not even looking like somebody else. We are unequally born from birth and that should be accepted instead of something trying to make us all equal. Why not start the cloning so that we all be robotic copies. But I am sure there are going to be discussions on this matter. Who will be the prototype?
A world government will not be equal to peace.
Tell me only one country without civilian war in its past. We just have many civilian world wars instead.
We can develop and learn to respect other humans without necessarily being under the same government. How about crapping the governments and start learning to rule and govern ourselves instead? An ability we were born from at birth. And with the right parenthood teachings making us all able.
Oh, I understand!
Hey! We tried to force people to become mationalsocialists, we tried to force them into being communists, socialists, believe in democracy and it all has cost millions and millions of lifes, but who cares? Lets now try to mold them into WORLD CITIZENS and in case they resist like they have always done, we kill some million more in the progress! Who cares. We have some brilliant new ideas, and we want to realize them, no matter what the costs!
It wont simply work. But this is the same
mass psychological thinking the money makers
and media magnates putting out coordinatingly to bring themselves into total control. There is only one way to maintain such rule completely. That is what probably be hell on earth. If you folks do not think so than go for it. I do not really care since I wont be here to see it happen.
Yea, your a funny Guy.
I wont be here either.
Every generation up until now, had its war, exept mine. So maybe, just maybe, my generation has done something right. But now the next generation comes. It knows of all the mistakes ever been made and it knows exactly, how to work things to accomplish bliss on earth. To me, that sounds like a song out of the stone age, but yea, go for it!
For heavens sake!
It is about not forcing anyone into anything at all!
It is about living together as brothers and sisters in this world and respect each others way of living…
How can that be so hard to understand?
Again (since you touched on this above): How old are you?
We are not all ONE on this planet. We are not even all one in this country, hell, we are not all one in our families and we never will be.
We are all different, some more, some less, and the dream you formulate, peace on earth and love to all mankind, is a old chewed up hat, nothing new, nothing exeptional, so why make a fuzz about it in the first place? There is no one on this earth who has not at least onece dreamed this dream. Its not the dream, darling, that matters, Its the road to get there…
That is the very thing we need to develop to!
But the way is long since so few understand.
How else could we have peace in the world?
Through enforcing it with a world government?
Is that what you prefer?
Well, nice, but we may not.
The way is not long because so few understand, you mus’nt think so little of the mental capacity of your fellow humans, the way is impossible because it is not part of the human condition.
Now, everybody is free to dream. Jane for instance believes, in 2012 we will arrive in a certain cosmic constellation that will expand our concensness. I have first to see that to believe it. As far as I can see, humans today are no different of humans tenthousand years ago.
What does expand peoples concensness as far as I can tell, is the possibillity of instant global communication through the internet, but then, an expanded concesness is not necessarely a changed human condition.
But, you are free to dream the old dream, so dream on.
I don’t agree! It is only that the human condition and its mental capacities are yet too undeveloped.
Maybe Jane is right? We can only wait and see. I can only hope that she is. Where will you bee, then?
Expanded consciousness can only be that we go beyond our three-dimensional consciousness to a multidimensional one.
But so far our thinking is crippled to only three dimensions…
And since there must be more than three (see mathematical physics) the dream will just have to become true, one day.
The question is only: When?
Yea, but that has already been said by so many others in the past and many have tried to develop humans in the direction they thought to be the ricght one and the result always were millions killed. Humans have not developed into something transhuman or something different then they were during all of recorded or otherwise known history and I dont see that they ever will, but if you choose to believe otherwise, then do so, it just does not have any basis in the whole of human reality. Like I said, you are free to dream on. I, for my part, have already dreamed it all. I prevere to linger in realities.
I dont claim to have an answer. Humans are different, no doubt about it. In my eyes, it is the mechanistic world view, part of the materialistic world view, that causes problems, like comparing humans with machines, whos parts can be changed and renewed at will, like transhumanists believe.
I repeat myself when I say, I see a great war coming, which might start out as a war, orchestrated by elites, but it will fuse into a world wide war between people who believe in the existence of a Creator God and such who dont, who prefer to see the world and nature as something mechanical.
Saying to develop the human in the right way is the disguise they use to make it legitible. How about reality? Have they managed? Look around for a while. The cancers, heart problems psychological diseases and so on…..
They have been working on it for some time. Spending billions and billions on it. How about reality? Has all these efforts with money spending and propaganda led to something. One must be blind not seeing it has not. Instead they have managed to increase
those problems. Increased severely and exponential. We must be real and see things for what they are. We should really start to stop lying to ourselves and understand this is the trap leading us to hell.
But since they SAY they have developed human in the right way and intends to do so say they are not punishable for any crime. Even if there are stastical proofs they are lying. It is what they SAY that is important. Not what they DO. As it always is with hypocritics. And blind people with damaged hearings listening but not seeing.
It is like Breivik saying he did not do it even if there are 100 of testimonies he did.
So what shall we go for when judging crime? What the criminal has said or what he/she has done. Which parameter should be judicial among these? Of course it is preferable both but when one of them doesnt apply. Which one should be the priotiy one? I think we all know the answer. So why is this priority not come to practice yet?
Ah, greenberry,
it has always been those who envisioned, we needed to develope in a certain way in order to better human kind and never have wars again, that killed millions and millions of people in their effort of trying.
I think, a lack of insight into the diversity of human kind lies at the bottom of EUthanasias good but not realistic intentions.
For the rest, I can only say to you: Go, and tell humanity how it has to be to have eternal peace and love on this earth according to your wishes. They are all waiting for you to teach them. I am sure, you are its last hope. But you will find, most people wont give a shit. They dont want to be told how they should be and there are people, who prefer war to peace, no matter how you dislike it. What do you want to do with them? Put them in a camp for political reeducation? Kill them? Talk to them until they puke?
You will be in for a big surprise one day, maybe even before you leave your present body.
It is – of course! – not a matter about the way I wish, but about people like you to awaken and begin to understand.
Then the rest will slowly come by itself. Don’t worry…
Yea, you see: we need to understand, we need to develop into, we need to grow long necks and trunks, so we can eat leafs off of very high treas, but the problem is, we wont…
Oh yea, you are so smart and far seeing. Compared to you, I am so dumb, I just dont understand, but I wil be in for a big surprise. Did you give santa claus my adress?
I dont know you, because unlike me you hide your personal details. But I do feel, you are probably female, and you do give the impression, you might be about half my age, but you are so much smarter, so much more experienced and savi, oh you know so much more about people and the world that you can predict, soon I will be in for a big surprise, when everything suddenly changes for the better, like it never has done before. Congratulations!
I would be interested to know what surprise is coming even if my view of Carlitos is he be among one of the most woken people I have ever acquinted. Is the surprise coming for all of us or only him? Cant you please reveal a little glimpse of what it can be about. I beg you.
The surprise will probably come for EUthanasia as well as for all of us. It will be a total loss of every participation regarding questions of our life, being completely under the rule of others, like shown in the above video “Brave New World”. But before that, there might be a even bigger surprise, a worldwide war in which two thirds of us perish, killed by means and weapon systems, we cant even imagine at the moment. But all that is not a surprice for me, its an anticipation, since I already saw that coming when I was 4 years of age. But, who knows, it might come as a surprise to others…-
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I wont say anymore, that this Blog is nearly dead. Look at it! This is the 111th comment in this one article alone!
I guess, in the end all of us will try to be self responsable individuals, EUthanasia, greenberry, Emanuel, darkside, Javier, I and all the others. Not everyone of us will succeed, but I give each one of you a flower for trying…
Holunderstrauch, Holunderstrauch, Holunderstrauch from top to bottom – some won’t call that “nearly dead”…
Its a sad thing, that people today, who are being told, the worlds salvation lies in mixing all nations and races to one equal mush, dont realize that those who spread this message, carefully watch over their own blood and would never allow a marriage outside the own bloodline. Why? Because they know there is no strenght and no progress in mush, only equality…-
The sad thing is not they are told cause that is not their fault. Their fault is they do believe it and listening to it. How is that possible when individuals like the queen, Obama the ones telling it and they still believe it. As like bombing a country and killing people for peace. It is incredible
so many falling for that hypocrisy.
Damn! Back to Norway!!
People still talk about a car bomb that has exploded in Oslo, others say, it was an underground explosion. But I have not seen a real crater in the street yet. Does anyone have a video or a picture that clearly shows a crater? All I see is a damaged building front that strongly gives the impression of having been exploded from the inside out….
The surprise will be around the corner – for all of us.
Who doesn’t want to understand now, will do it then.
Bloodlines will then have no importance, anymore.
Expect things to happen this year – but I don’t mean such idiocy as in Norway! Mainly things not man-made. Why do you think that the earthquakes keep becoming more? What will radioactivity do to us? It is far from over yet, even if the media keep quiet about it… What about an economical breakdown planned by secret organizations? Etc., etc. Watch signs at the horizon. They are already there for those who can see them! No one knows yet when things will happen, and what. But that doesn’t mean that they will not happen… No use to discuss, since that can be no more than mere speculation in in direction or another. Just wait and see.
Yea, I am sure its going to be gruesome…
I most of all fear hate mongering and threat swinging bitches who give dark hints about surprises around the corner. I’m shaking all over.
Has anybody seen the picture of an explosion crater on the street in Oslo?
I have not and that is because no one such exist unless in photoshop engineering case. Pictures fitting the official story would of course be shown if they did really exist. Another thing are all the hidden cameras around a government building. Have we seen
any pic from them yet. And how came that be?
How come B Ladin killed earlier this spring and body thrown into the sea. I think having the answer to it. It is all because they lying and cant prove they are not. Why else do we not see more evidence backing up the official and media story. Dont let a good crisis go to waste. Now they talking about restrictions for planting vegetables because of the fertilizer risk. As like this was something new and maybe a great surprise. It is not. This have been known for 1000 of years. It is incredible that the evil of ONE evil guy may lead to restrictions for MILLION of good guys. It is incredible to see such great advantage evil have over good. Completely without sanse and beyond any limits of something that could be called sane brains. Incredible.
Yes greenberry,
there seems to be a lot of foto control going on. I can not find a blast crater in the street. I have been shown something, but it was not a blast crater. I am not an explosive expert, but I do know a little about it. Seen the damage on the building front, it most have been a big rxplosion if we take it that it was only one, and it must have left a considerable blast crater. but we dont see one…-
Yea, cosmos or god himself or flying saucers will come down on us. I know one thing to be true. You know as much or as little about comingevents as I do. So dont blow yourself up. Chances are, whatever happens is going to be man made.
I have studied the flying saucers for a while before but decided to move into much more earthly concepts. Not because I do not think it wont happen. On the contrary. But after looking around for a while on the aliens theories comparing it to other theories I came to the same conclusion as Carlitos above.
“Changes are, whatever happens is going to be man made.”
And I have studied this thoroughly. From all kinds of perspectives so I think the conclusion is pretty sane. I would be SURPRISED if not.
Oh, I think, that fying saucer thing has some truth to it. There are to many sightings all around the world, but this aint a UFO blog…-
Has anybody seen the picture of an explosion crater on the street in Oslo?
One sign at the horizon is Elenin.
Ever heard of it?
Yea, look closely, I’ll give you a sign:
All through out history, in times when the threat of war or great social upheaval was visible on the horizon, people talked about God himself will soon swoop down and do away with all the evil ones. I see no differents to what happens today.
Dont think, I live behind the moon. I follow all discussions on the net, including that about a nearing Elenin. I probably invest more time in informing myself then you, since I have the 24 hours of a day entirely to myself, I dont have to work, I dont have to do anything, and I am forced to stay at home all day, so I inform myself all and every day. I dont think there is anything you know about Elenin that I dont know and I dont fear Elenin with good reasons, that dont belong here.
Has anyone seen a foto or a video that showes a explosion crater on the street in Oslo?
May I point out, darling, since you say we ought to develope ourselfs, you seem to have the hatefull wish in your heart, that something should happen to do away with “it all”. Cleance yourself.
Look, if this Elenin event takes place, none of us will survive. So its a good idea to cleanse your heart before you meet your maker with all your nasty thoughts in mind. And if it does not take place, you should still cleanse your heart of all the hate and resentment that made you wish for the event to take place.
You are afraid, I understand…
It could be that nothing serious happens, but it certainly looks like it very well may…
Who wishes it? Being prepared for the worst is another thing than wishing… But you will reconsider the world situation and your own accordingly. If you take life seriously.
Who wished the nuclear catastrophe in Japan? Yet it did happen.
Fukushima now poisons the world and media keep quiet about it. Why? Because there is no more anything at all that we can do about it. We have to live through it. An through more such incidents that may come since no nuclear plant is fully secure against the increasing rate of earthquakes. But the nuclear lobby doesn’t want us to know since they would lose money… and money is worth much more to them than people… The time bomb is ticking.
No, I am not afraid, so you dont understand. I am nearly 60 years old and I have lived more in my time then ten average citizens in theirs. I am ready to die at this very moment. So why should I be afraid?
Well, look, you truely are not telling us anything new, are you? So whats the fuzz all about?
Would please someone tell me if there exists a foto or a video of the Oslo bombing, that clearly showes a explosion crater in the street????
A few things didn’t get through, maybe I clicked wrong, or maybe for another reason. So I do it again.
First, I wrote that the one who like the ostrich sticks his head in the sand may easily be hit on his A’$*$ instead, and that might hurt a lot more than expected.
The links I stated will be added (repeated) separately below.
LOL. Havent I seen the same problem before somewhere? A fuzz that had to be commented in
already 100 comments from another person? A person with another name but with the same system set up. How come?
Do you think I am surprised? No I am not but decided to give you a chance to speak before
uncovering that fact. A lie doesnt tend to hold for so very long time when its origin depends on a problem. A problem that seems to be coming from within. And just as the mainstream lying using it as a way to infiltrate and manipulate masses even individual persons tend to do the same when they cant get THEIR truth and only truth known.
Carefull, greenberry…-
I never made 100 comments about this…
…but probably 100 persons did…
“LOL. Havent I seen the same problem before somewhere? A fuzz that had to be commented in already 100 comments from another person? ” greenberry darkly hinting at MH here?
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So, what about learning to count first, greenberry?
Stupidity and blind following is something which really angers me, you see? LOL.LOL:LOL
Darkly hinting that MH may be even identical with EUthanasia (or Pauline and various others) – was and is BS and a clear sign of paranoia or blatant stupidity….
THINK TWICE was one of the “false names” used by MH according to that Karlos Hutterer lier alias Holunderstrauch (or whatever)
It was nothing of that kind – but who cares. Greenberry and Holunderstrauch don’t care. That’s for sure. And that’s all that counts on this site, doesn’t it?
It would have been much better to THINK TWICE…
Then I stated this link to the orbit calculation for Elenin:
http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=elenin;orb=1;cov=0;log=0;cad=0#orb
Check the dates Sept. 28, Oct. 17 and Nov. 22, 2011.
And then I gave the following link for info about Elenin:
http://elenin.org/
NOW it comes in, awaiting moderation!!
Well…
Oh, do we now get that again? No explanation whatsoever helps, does it? Oh its so very very interesting…-
Yes, EUthanasia.
No need to tell me all this. I know it already. Like I said, I work on the internet, informing myself, every day including hollydays and sundays from about 6 o clock in the morning, until 22 o clock at night with sometimes some hours in between in which I work on other things. So I know all that. So what am I supposed to do now? Be afraid? Well, I am not afraid. Fuck Elenin. In case Elenin is what some say it is, we will probably all be dead soon, in case it is not, we’ll go on as usual. So what? What do you expect me to do now, or to think or whatever? Since it is something I have no infuence on, so fuck it! What do you want me to do with it all? Shake? Okay, I’ll shake for a moment, just for you…-
Okay, dear EUthasia,
since you have put so much honest effort into it, I have now shaken for a moment. Are you satisfied?
Well,
if you are not satisfied, just tell me what I can do for you and I will try to comply. I’ll go to bed now. I expect to read your wishes n the morning. Good night.
NASA’s orbit calculation simply cannot be a lie. The thing certainly is out there, and we don’t know what it will do.
Carlitos, shake as you want, but the info is not only for you. Sorry if I scared you LOL. That wasn’t my intention…
Maybe others appreciate these facts a bit, after all. Let them do it! We now know what you think, and we know it well enough now… Let others make it out for themselves.
Let me repeat:
It could be that nothing serious happens, but it certainly looks like it very well may…
Who wishes it? Being prepared for the worst is another thing than wishing… But you will reconsider the world situation and your own accordingly. If you take life seriously.
But was not Elenin discovered by some russian astronomer last december? I had studied the Nibiru tale for some time before that. Could not Elenin be Nibiru than? Because somebody decided to give them different names it doesnt necessarily need to be different identities. The Mayas had other names of it. So did other civilisations. A dear child with many names.
By the way NASA only lying when it serves a specific interest. Just keeping quiet is sometimes also a kind of lie. Strange this had to be discovered by some poor russian astronomer. If he was an amateur I would feel it even more reliable as the TRUTHS from NASA that should in such case had known about it long ago. Is not that a little suspectable. Like the rumours of a car bomb in Oslo. If they could prove it they would of course shown us the hidden camera pictures that should be around those buildings long time ago. Why they dont. Because they are lying and cannot prove they are not. You see this same pattern in all staged events. There are always to many details that cant be proven. Only the main thing. What about the kill of B Ladin and his body thrown in the sea. Making an accuse of not being able to prove it.
Yes indeed very strange that a foundation spending trillions do not know about something before a poor russian. Is this the reason why the NASA orbit simply cannot be lying. Do they know so much more than us which make it impossible for them to lie? Or just refraining from telling the truth.
By the way, greenberry. you did notice the hatefull bitch with her psychopathic suspicions and allegations is spooking around, lurking for attention?
“Carlitos, …., but the info is not only for you. Sorry if I scared you LOL. That wasn’t my intention…
Maybe others appreciate these facts a bit, after all. Let them do it! We now know what you think, and we know it well enough now… Let others make it out for themselves.” says EUthanasia
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I couldn’t have said it much better…
I have not the slightest Idea what you are talking about. But if your mental disorder keeps you from properly taking part in this comments and you have to swoop about like some sick bird, hacking in this, hacking in that, always spouting hate, spreading suspicion and allegations, then why dont you look for another venue, like a good doctors couch?
So when the russian astronomer from which Elenin got its name did discover it in december 2010 optically.
Not only in belief or assumption such a comet or planet really did exist. NASA had to admit it and there were calculations made on its orbit already in january some month later. The orbit were predicted to reach its TCPA (a term used for Time of Closest Point of Approach even in naval radar concept) somewhere in september or october this autumn. It is not coming as any surprise to me NOW. How can it when commenting on it already this late spring or early winter. Even in this blogg. Go back and look if it comes as any surprise. And Carlitos did even comment upon that too. So how can that be a surprise than? That NASA have been calculating its orbit.
The comet would probably not collide with the Earth although they were speaking of some dirty debris that may hanging on in its tail. A tail we will be passing this autumn. According to NASA which is a very reliable organisation and always speaks everything they know as soon they know it. Still I cant understand why a russian astronomer knew it before they did. Unless he was not working for them of course. But than comes the question. Why did not than NASA take credit for the surprise?
But the funniest thing is that “Elenin” or “Elevennine” will have its TCPA of the Sun
on the 10th anniversary of the same day. I always wondered who makes the sun go up in the morning every day and now it is a proven fact. It must be NASA who have everything under control. So do not get worried and shake. Even if there may be some shakings of the earth everything is under control. Just
like it was with Fukushima from the first day.
“According to NASA which is a very reliable organisation and always speaks everything they know as soon they know it. ” says greenberry.
You must be kidding … as way too often…
LOL. I appreciate your urgent warning about being “prepared for the worst” but I simply do not know how to make that preparation. I am a poor fellow without any means. And I do not get any access to the underground bases where the money swindlers already have bought into a surviving ticket. In some cases I am almost happy to be poor cause living together with swindlers and murderers who were the survivors on other peoples expense afterwards will not be a very pleasant thing. Therefore I do not see too much to be prepared for that be of much special motivation.
Dear EUthanasia,
Its 6:35 next morning. Somehow Jane has set the time of this Blog on another timescale.
I am not afraid of Elenin, but I see, you are. Maybe I can take some of that fear away from you. I am not one of them stargezers, so I do lack the specific knowledge to proof or disproof to you whether Elenin is coming to harm us or not. What I do know to be true is, NASA claims to be a civilian agency, but its not. Its a military agency and it works for the Pentagon. The Pentagon works for those people who recently brought us the Oslo bombing. These people have a great interest to distract us all from things they are preparing and to guide are gaze into the stars instead, they dont want us to be busy with their doings, they want us to be stiff with fear of the present and the furure. Darkside, shortly ago pointed out that they are masters of creating fear today by projecting some frightening event into our future, like global warming.
NASA is full of deciet. NASA has lied to us from on its early beginnings. It has falsified fotos from the moon and all other heavenly body it has explored. NASA is not a trustworthy agency at all.
Having said all that, I wish to remind you that in case Elenin realy is the evil heavenly body, out to bring us great destruction, so what do you want to do about it, exept being afraid? Do you want to dig a very deep hole into your back yard to crawl into as soon as the time has come? Probably not. So the only thing the entire Elenin thing leaves you with is fear. But dont we know that fear is the major tool the hidden ones work with to manipulate us all? So how come we allow are selfs to be so fearfull on the grounds of their information about something that, if it would be true, could not be changed anyway???
Thus, I conclude, all the people, afraid of Elenin, are full of shit! Last thing I heard about it was, it might disrupt some old electricity grids and disturb telecommunication. Thats less damage to us then to the moneymasters. A disturbed telecommunication means a shortening of trade. Lets finaly fuck Elenin!
I have asked in two blogs and called up six people whether anyone has seen pictures or a video, showing a blast crater in the street of Oslo, and I have gotten no answer yet. Why are we still all talk about a car bomb or even a bomb hidden in the sewer system underneath the street, when nobody has seen a blast crater?? Fuck Elenin and show me a blast crater instead!
“Dear EUthanasia,
Its 6:35 next morning. Somehow Jane has set the time of this Blog on another timescale.” ( Holunderstrauch )
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Jane never ever does anything here!! – except of spooking around in comment sections using false names – (as claimed Holunderstrauch at some earlier time)
Hello –
remember that Holunderstrauch lecturing everybody on Microsoft or Google and various technicalities?
It’s a Holunderstrauch plague – constantly contradicting himself in words and behaviour but lecturing everybody…
what a bore
I don’t wanna know what happens out there, I have enough in my own backyard. I can’t do anything about that, either. Explosion on the ground or under, that’s important. Even though they are all dead anyway and it brings no one back to life. What the masons are doing is my whole world. And what the Jews have to do with it. If only I could change it, but I can’t. Maybe there will be a WW3. I can’t change that either. But I need to know, even if no one survives it. You have your noia, I have mine. Why should I look to the sky when so much is going on on the ground (and maybe under it). You care about what you cannot change, I care about what I cannot change. Both will happen, anyway, or maybe not. You don’t know, I don’t know. Let me keep my blinders on, you can look through your own colored glasses. Let me have my fear and bother about your own.
Come on, guys! Look in the mirror! But better polish it first. Now play your games in the sandbox, I find it too dull and go and play somewhere else.
Its not realy said yet, that the masonic doings on this earth can not be stopped or at least disrupted. But it is certain that I can not stop an incoming comet.
I have arranged either the masons nor Elenin, so why should I look into any mirror? I can not help if you have not found the pity for your sorry views that you might have wished for. So dont piss on me for it.
I can not give you the certainty that you wish regarding Elenin or your future. There are loads of other Blogs where this subject is being discussed. The chance for you to find what you are looking for there, is much greater then here.
I dont feel the urge to degrade this blog by calling it a sandbox, because I find no satisfaction for a personal whim like Elenin. I find it a rather lively Blog, once the crackpots have left.
I just dont give a fuck about any end of the world shit, that will only bring me down, weaken me, without giving me the slightest chance to do anything about it. You go, and bath in tiring, life sucking, motivation suffocating crap like that, but dont expect me to do the same.
I might be able to help to prevent a next Oslo, like we all might have prevented a Berlin, who knows, but I am sure as fuck am not going to stop an incoming comet!
Looking at the confusion in your last comment, I’d reccomend, you go to bed.
For heavens sake! Just look at yourself! Elenin has not even arrived yet, and you are cracking up already! That is, what that Elenin thing does for you. Well, I want nothing of it!
“Come on, guys! Look in the mirror! But better polish it first. Now play your games in the sandbox, I find it too dull and go and play somewhere else.” says EUthanasia
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Even if it’s aggravating greenberry’s paranoia…
I couldn’t agree more, EUthanasia.
Carpe diem
There is another question I am very interested in. I have not seen it being asked anywhere: How come the Oslo killer has been caught, and caught alive at that?? Was it on purpose, was it by accident or was it because he did not care?
It’s time for Jane to post some new articles for Holunderstrauch to comment on -
otherwise he’s likely to reach or even topple the 200…
He’s still got some questions left…
Just wondering if some kind of masturbation is going on here- That PETER TRAUBEL was hinting in that direction. And it seems he knows that Karlos Hutterer alias Holunderstrauch quite well.
Oh yes.
We have done quite good without you, have’nt we? Unfortunately, now that you are back, more then half the comments will consist out of vile personal attacks again, out of spreading hate, suspicions and alligations. To bad…-
That was y o u r part, remember?
Oh yes,Holunderstrauch is accusing others instead.
His vile personal attacks of MH (and others), hate, curses, suspicions and alligations are filling lots of pages on this site starting right on top of multiple comment sections.
Too bad.
Hello everyone , two , three.or four
What is being written by all of you is quite an eye full. The point is , that Huxleys world is a “GRAVE ” new world not a brave new world. There is nothing brave about it. and you all know or suspect it. We are frustrated by not being able to do anything much about it. Jane knows that feeling well.
I did go through the entire 2nd world war and lived in Eindhoven,the home of the Phillips factories. As a child I was utterly disgusted with what I’d been born into. Jewish people I knew disappeared suddenly and it was only rumoured wheren they went what awaited them. Thousands of Dutch troops voluntered to fight on the side of the Nazi germany against the Russians on the Eastern front, where they were slaughtered. One could not trust in anything.or anybody for that matter.
I was born into the Catholic Faith, but there again in became quite clear to me that non of this had anything to do with love they neighbour. Although they claimed that it did, many in the faith were just as nasty and intollerant as anyone else..Something I experiences in the Hospital run by some very nasty holy nuns , when I was sick and undernourished They all just wanted to control people. After the war I just didn’t go back to school , I could n’t stand the indoctrination and the manipulation , so I just wondered around Eindhoven for years looking at the city being rebuilt. It was n’t until our Family left for New Zealand that I was sent to a Catholic boarding school, which was like a prison, where freedoms were severly restricted.
It is n’t that long ago that most of us had no recourse to being read or heard., Even if one wrote a successfull book, you might reach a few thousand readers , maybe more.if you were lucky. Soon to be forgotten
With the advent of the computor we have a small window inwhich to communicate as never before.and weather this is a blessing or a curse, time will tell. It must be obvious by now that the computer has become part of the silent war, a war that will mean the survival or complete destruction of mankind. It all seems so involved and complex, and yet the only realy important aspect in this awfull scenario,is quite a simple christian notion, and that is” does one love ones neighbour as oneself”.? Hate should only be reserved for Satan. God only knows who Satan realy is or in what mode of existence its evil manifests itself,or whom are those that are posseded by it One thing is for sure, if we can’t recognise or refuse to accept the presence of an evil spirit engulfing the world today we are in for a hell of a nasty shock.
Yes, of course, its a Grave new world, he just titeld it different. But I did figure out why Huxley had John Savage hang himself in the end. He had nowhere to go. The whole world and even every Island has been under the control of the system. They owned the whole planet, like they try to accomplish today, take posession of the whole planet.
Oh, there is an evil spirit alright, engulfing, or at least doing its best to engulf. It was Goethe who called it “The spirit that says NO to everything” (Der Geist der stets verneint) which is interesting to me personally, since I found that the proper name for a Creator God must be YES, since he sais yes to all things in existence. So the lighter side of things is always the one where YES is being said to one another and the dark side, where NO is said and hate is being spouted out of sickening, deep inner desire.
Emanuel,
I assume you have read or seen “Brave New World”. Do you remember the part where this powerfull departement boss from the new society visits John Savage for the first time in his hut on his island. He exchanges some words with John, who tells him, he is doing fine on the island. But then the boss takes a belt or something like that from a hook on the wall and sais “But still, you need this?” and it turnes out, John uses it to whip “Bad desires”, as he himself calls it, out of his body. Can you make any sense of that? Can you fit this into the general flow of the story? How on earth did Huxley arrive at that idea?
“There’s nowhere you can be that isn’t where you’re meant to be.”
(All crackpots have left? Or rather the other way round? Intelligent people sooner or later are simply pissed off by being lectured by some Holunderstrauch)
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And as to your last question: Ever heard anything about the practices of self-castigation by fanatics? (see: “Opus Dei” affiliated to the Jesuit order)
Oh yes. of course I have heard of that. But my question, you see, was, if Emanuel has any Idea how that fits into the general flow of the story and how on earth Huxley could have gotten the idea to put that in. Maybe, if you read my question again? Its quite simple and plain to understand.
We generally expect each other to know simple things like the existence of this sort of self mutilation. We are intelligent and grown up people here. So that could have hardly been the question that I have meant…-
I won’t do the thinking for you…
you can take it as a lead or just leave it.
Huh?
This is for those who are at prepared to at least try to understand.
Elenin is most probably bigger than the Earth, some sources claim as big as Jupiter, but I’m not really convinced about that. It is in any case proven that it has a really strong gravity, which can remarkably influence us. The most critical times are when it is aligned with the Earth and the Sun, so that it and the Sun by gravitation pulls at the Earth from either opposite sides, or from the same side.
The first alignment was March 11 this year, the day of the big earthquake in Japan. The Earth then was between the Sun and Elenin, but Elenin was then farther away. During a period before, during and after this alignment, the orbit of the Moon was remarkably distorted. Many observed it and some reported it in the Internet, but the media kept quiet about it. It was alleged that a blackout about it had been ordered to official media so as to not stir up the public. Some reports soon disappeared from the Internet.
The next alignment will be September 29. Then Elenin will be between the Earth and the Sun, but much closer to the Earth than to the Sun. What then may happen, remains to be seen.
The final alignment will be November 22. Then the Earth will again be between the two, but that time Elenin will be closer to the Earth than the Sun. What will happen then will in any case be a lot more than March 11!
Elenin comes the closest to the Earth on October 17 (but not in alignment with the Sun). Again we will have to see what that may do.
I don’t fear this, instead it gives me hope. I will here not explain why, since obviously some will not be able to understand it.
I now quit this sandbox. As you know, a sandbox for children sometimes gets dogshit in it, and children get worms from that. There is shit in this sandbox, too, and I stay away from worms that could get into my brain, as it might have happened to some of you.
I see that MH is back. Maybe I should have read his/her stories better, but they were too long to read. Maybe I would then have changed my opinion. Carlitos tales are also often too long to read all of it. But who cares…
Now that you have informed me of all this, again.
Would you now be so kind and also tell me, what I am supposed to do with this information. The desaster expected is clearly so great, that average people, of which I am one, have no chance of preparing or protecting themselfs. So please, now that you have explaines it all to me again, please also tell me, what I am supposed to do with your information. Be so kind…-
Only one thing: Be prepared!
What is the surprise?
If the desaster is taking place like it is predicted by sources, nothing else will matter anymore. It would be utterly senseless to discuss any threatening NWO any further, the threatening financial collaps wont count any more, nothing of that kind would have to be worth to be discusssed any further. Every talk or even investigation of secret doings and planning of masonic groups would be totaly in vain, the robberies taking place in arabien and north african countries could be overlooked, since they wont matter any more. Now, does it not appear convenient to you, that something like this should be predicted by the pentagons agency NASA, particularely at this point in time, when many things necessary for the creation of a NWO speed towards their finish line?
I dont doubt for a second that the information you have about the future event is totally convincing. But hey, how could it be any less?
So just allow me to point out that there is a good chance, the Elenin information has been put out into the world by the military agency NASA for the particular purpose of paralizing all and every effort and activity directed against the powers, constructing the NWO.
If your last sentence is true: How could Elenin cause such a remarkable distortion of the Moon orbit in February-March?
It was there to see for everyone who cared and who did know enough to see what was going on (which, however, few did).
Did (could?) NASA shift the Moon orbit for a few weeks? Instead they apparently ordered a black-out for info about it…
But for the first part: In a way that is just what I am hoping for…
That things will change without our doing… and a new world can be built on the ruins of the old, and a very different one from what the N*W*O wants!
(I thought I would leave this sandbox, but now it LOOKS like someone is slowly beginning to understand…)
Oh oh oh.
I hope you are not taking about me, since I would have to disapoint you. I still dont care about Elenin and I never will, unless it knocks right onto my front door. If I wanted to keep myself busy with Elenin, I would not be here on Jane Bürgermeisters Blog, I’d visit a Elenin Blog.
Look, you may not have noticed, but Elenin does not belong in this Blog, no matter how much Elenin interests you, frightens you or draws your attention. It is rather rude of you to continue pushing Elenin onto us, although this is everything else then an Elenin Blog.
But if you forcefully want to make a sandbox out of this Blog, you keep it up and go ahead. As recent experience shows, nobody can stop you. There were those who made a big fuzz when Jane switched from pharma-medical issues to those of finance, but they now dont seem to care if this Blog takes a turn to become a astronomy Elenin Blog on the whim of one person…
If you so desparetely wish to discuss Elenin, may I then please suggest, you visit one of the many Blogs that have made Elenin their subject, since there you would not have to bother with ignorant people like me who “dont understand” and you for sure would meet others, much more drawn to the subject and on the same wave lenght as you, regarding Elenin? Please?
So it seems that you are still stuck in this circle:
“I don’t wanna know what happens out there, I have enough in my own backyard. I can’t do anything about that, either. Explosion on the ground or under, that’s important. Even though they are all dead anyway and it brings no one back to life. What the masons are doing is my whole world. And what the Jews have to do with it. If only I could change it, but I can’t. Maybe there will be a WW3. I can’t change that either. But I need to know, even if no one survives it. You have your noia, I have mine. Why should I look to the sky when so much is going on on the ground (and maybe under it). You care about what you cannot change, I care about what I cannot change. Both will happen, anyway, or maybe not. You don’t know, I don’t know. Let me keep my blinders on, you can look through your own colored glasses. Let me have my fear and bother about your own.”
I wrote it quickly above before I went away for all the day, but should have made more clear, that it is not about me, but about how I see you.
Relative to what by lots of evidence seems to be coming upon us soon, it will soon have no importance anymore if the explosion was on the ground or under, what made that idiot kill so many innocents, etc. It can’t be undone and might in some weeks be a background issue for us all, in the background of much bigger events. Maybe very much bigger.
Now I do leave you in this sandbox…
before one is ever so ready to throw one/a concept under a bus one must look at all sides-
one must take seriously the testimonies of those who witnessed at least 2 shooters (there could’ve been even more)-
one must also consider the fact that Breivik just might be an ideal patsy (what a concept!)-
and one must also consider the official story of a “lone, crazed” killer (they’re always “lone ad crazed,” right?- just look at Lee Harvey Oswald and Timothy McVeigh) who managed to destroy a gov”t building and shortly afterward killed many young, innocent civilians as being possibly BOGUS!
Ye@@@Cardillac@@@@
We already have considered all of that and have come to some conclusions. One of our people on this Blog even knows people who are near to children who survived the massacre. So thank you, Cardillac, for your consideration. Not only did we considere different sides of the event, whats even more, we are still considering some of them. Thank you Cardillac.
I would say that given that around a hundred or more youth were targeted over a period of 90 minutes, that means that one youth was shot approx every minute which, given the terrain and the circumstances, was an imposssible feat for one person to have accomplished unless it was a set up. So there must have been more than one marksman involved.
Another thing I wanted to bring up is in regard to MH. I have noticed a crucial difference between the two verbal combatants. Carlitos contributes much relevant information and is a person with passion and originality.and obviously get fired up. However I’ve tried to find some real useful input from MH…. up to now I’ve not found it. All I can say MH is that if you want to be accepted as someone whose heart is in the right place, it is important you write from the heart like the others, otherwise the suspicion that has arisen has some grounds. I know that Carlitos shoots from the hip, verbally, but that shouldn’t stop you from 1,Letting it pass, and.2. Make some contributions of your own without making it a verbal slanging match.
Israel is regarded by many as the Jewish Promised Land.The only problem with that assertion is that it does not gel with what the ZIONISTS are doing to expose the Jews to the same slaughter that has happened many times before in history. I believe now that the aim is not Israel to be the Promised Land, but the Promised Land is in fact the Whole World. That would make sense as regards the ZIONIST global agenda. To control the whole world they are quite happy to sacrifice both Israel and the Jewish people just as they did when they supported the Holocaust in Nazi Germany.
Yes Emanuel.
Greenberry and I have figured out, tf it would have been only one shooter, he would have had to carry 8+ kilogramms of ammunition with him. Also, there has been a woman politician just shortly befor the massacre visiting the island and another high level politician was being expected, allthough in the end, he did not show up. But the precense of both would mean, there must have been armed personal security people on the island. What have they done during the massacre on the kids? I think, they participated in shooting them. Regarding MH, this character is either driven by deep hate or strong attention seeking, both in psychopathic intensity, or it is paid for what its doing. Jane beliefes, MH is being paid.
“Regarding MH, this character is either driven by deep hate or strong attention seeking, both in psychopathic intensity, or it is paid for what its doing. Jane beliefes, MH is being paid.” (Holunderstrauch again)
Just another example of his insults – really sounding like an idiot.
As to “attention seeking” – Who sees himself “as the centre of the universe” (this site)? Holunderstrauch, Holunderstrauch, Holunderstrauch….all over the place -NICE.
Oh, and BTW that attention seeking Holunderstrauch should leave it to Jane to speak for herself.
Unlike others I would never accept such a vulgar Holunderstrauch mouthpiece talking on behalf of Jane.
More than irrelevant.
You see that I and greenberry react negatively towards your Elinin, and others dont react at all, but no matter, it has to be pushed thrugh, right, if necessary with force, sandbox wise?
Ref.: My reply to you above from to day 5:12 am.
Emanuel,
Have you seen the two videos, part 1 and part 2, that I have posted a bit further up, not as players but as links. In this video one sees the methods of nationalsocialism and communism compared with each other. One sees, the posters both made were alike, the music they had was alike, the camps they both had were alike, the human being they wanted to create was alike, and theyr slaufhter of people was alike. In short, there has been no differnece between nationalsocialism and communism. Like one sais, communism was international socialism and national socialism was socialism for the nation. Why have both been so similar? Because they were both created and financed by the same British elite as a big social experiment. The only reason why in the end they attacked Germany instead of Russia was, the Germans killed people according to race, race, while Russians killed them by class. Its a hugely interesting video. I heard, it has won one or the other movie award.
That the end goal is not the promised land as a stretch of land in Palestine, but the whole world, is revealed in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. This document is so revealing, it warps your mind. Every step taken to reach the goal, is described in it. The effort made, to let it be known as a forgery, is such, that nobody beliefes it is a forgery. Aside of that, there is nothing to forge. If I would discover a document that is written hunderd years ago and sums up every day that it has rained until this present day without a fault, one can call it a forgery, but what is the use of it, if it sums up every rainy day of the last hunderd years correctly? Whats the point of calling it a forgery when its contens proofs its worth and history its truthfullness?
In spite of all, I report something that will interest some guys here:
Latest news from Norway (newspaper Aftenposten):
The super idiot was delayed by traffic disturbances and arrived in Oslo considerably later than planned. If he had arrived “on time”, many more might have died from the explosion. He had planned to reach Utøya while Gro Grundtland was still there, but because of this arrived 1 ½ hours later, when she had left. In order to cooperate with the police, he requests that the king should abdicate and the government as well as the military management should resign! Even if he in one way may be clever, he is really crazy in another way…
Is Aftonposten saying so? Whatever they say is probably not true. The only ones to believe or trust in this story are the youngsters and other eyewitnesses around.
I wonder what is the source he had planned to reach Utoya while Grundtland was there.
Now you must remember that Breivik is not allowed to look on or read any media. Whatever he says cant be proven it is he who said it. Even if he had said nothing. And the last and most important thing is that no public is allowed, know or hear what he says.
In other words: What the Aftenposten says what he says is suspectible. Anyone saying what he says is suspectible under such circumstances. Dont you think? How come they be able to know so much when he is not even allowed to speak to them?
Hearings behind closed doors means simply that no one in public may hear what he says. And that goes for the “honorable” Aftenposten too. One of them stinking sensationalistisc medias used of making big money on lies.
And Aftenposten together with similar BS have divided
the lies over time. Which means they can come up with
a new one every day. So in order to get the whole tale of what he says you have to bye 10 different numbers over 10 days instead of having them all in one. Be sure of it.
They are holding the Guy totally incomunnicato, so he can not bring a single word into the outside world. And, I have been in similare situation, no word of the outside world reaches him. That gives them every possible room to spin the truth which ever way they want to.
@Emanuel van den Bemd
“Another thing I wanted to bring up is in regard to MH. I have noticed a crucial difference between the two verbal combatants. Carlitos contributes much relevant information and is a person with passion and originality.and obviously get fired up. However I’ve tried to find some real useful input from MH…. up to now I’ve not found it. All I can say MH is that if you want to be accepted as someone whose heart is in the right place, it is important you write from the heart like the others, otherwise the suspicion that has arisen has some grounds. I know that Carlitos shoots from the hip, verbally, but that shouldn’t stop you from 1,Letting it pass, and.2. Make some contributions of your own without making it a verbal slanging match.”
All that ferocious insults, vulgar curses, defamation and libel by Karlos Hutterer alias Holunderstrauch didn’t come from a good natured heart or human being – that’s my experience and impression…he’s a hell of a hypocrite
“he’s shooting from the hip” – that’s much too harmless a description for all his pages and pages filled with hate and dirt…BS!!
I’ve mostly refrained from commenting – as have others.
But I won’t allow such an individual smear my name. He gets the answers he deserves. Is that OK for you, Emanuel?
Well, it’s OK for me.
The information in this newspaper can only come from not reliable sources, since he is held totaly incommunicato, he has no contacts to the media or any private persons and they have none to him. So it is quite sure that they are spinning a make believe story.
None of the information coming out of the media is trustworthy. They claim, they shield him from the rest of the world so he can not hold his political speaches that he supposedly was planning to give, but thats a cheap lie. More important for them is, they keep him incommunicato so nobody gets a shred of truth and they can fiddle all the information according to their will.
I never said that I trust public media!
I ONLY informed what was reported, without valuing it.
For you to do whatever you want with it. Since I also understand Scandinavian languages and thus get infos you may not get…
They allegedly seem to have got the info from the police.
Another alleged explanation – true or not – why the police knew his name before they came to Utøya: They saw his hired van on a surveillance camera and got the name from the car-hiring company. Strange, though, that they didn’t react immediately, instead of first calling that company…
Well, nobody said you did…
It is a tale. An official story that was planned to be there even before it happened. They are just sticking to it. Beta testing the public. The car and fertilizer thing is suiting their interests. The interests are to put restrictions on food and vegetable growin.
I saw it from the first day in norwegian news
NRK. The discussions about now we must protect ourselves from the evil farmers that may use their products for bombing us.
Therefore that car serve its purpose and that is why they so desperately sticking to it even when the story do not fit. They are simply paid by BIG AGRA to stick it out. Havent you noticed that most papers are finansiated with commercials? Even the NEWS are commercials disguised and distorted to its favor.
Yea,
you are so right!
The same objective was behind
the e-coli infections in Germany.
They are aiming to monopolize all world food production and to eradicate all natural food production in order to poison us with their industrial ones. Just look at Codex Alimentarius! That sais it all!
As if it was not possible for farmers to use
fertilisers to bombs before Breivik and that he has know taught the whole world how to do it. One guys bad action will suddenly affect the lives and good actions of million of others. Does this give a little clue on how their brains work? The brains of the lawmakers. And does it give some clue about the proportions between bad and good when making their examples?
Using fertilizer and diesel oil as explosive, was the prevered bomb production method of the IRA, before they got their hands on Semptex.
When I in the 50es went to school, a guy told me how he lost two fingers. He had made a bomb for fun (not for any attack) with a certain fertilizer and sugar, and kept shaking it vigorously to mix the stuff, and it exploded in his hand. The “recipe” is age-old!
You went to school in the 50ies?! So how, in heavens name, can you be so childish!?
Yes, its true.
The recipe is very simple.
All you need is one of the three synthetic fertilizer components and a carbonhydrat of some kind. Although its easy to do, one better not paint the exact recipe onto walls, since I am ceratin there are enough fools out there that would like to own explosives, all be it to play and fool around with, and to blow themselfs up, in a kind of Terrorselfattack.
Come on folks, dont be so timid. Lets go promoting nuclear bombs, bombs, neutron bombs, bombs over Libya and bombs over Afghanistan while restricting food production on the fields because of bomb competitioning reasons.
Does it really make any difference if it is
NATO-Rasmussen or the PM Stoltenberg pulling the trigger and bombing for killing innocent people or Breivik. Only tell me what difference that makes to the guys behind the triggers. As far as I see there is NO difference at all. Arent they all simple murderers that we were better off with behind and shaking bars?
Now look at this poll.
http://www.standeyo.com/NEWS/11_Pics_of_Day/110729.pic.of.day.c.html
Does it ring a bell the technique of how to keep up popularity and power with the help of lies and staged events? Have a look what happened in april-may
with the Obama poll after fooling everybody they had killed Mr. Ladin. Now you can bet as the popularity
continues falling there will happen things that will counter that trend. Perfectly timed and planned events for the future.
Maybe saving us from Elenin or something similar will make him the NWO-leader. The whole world will marvel to the fantastic guy who killed Ladin and saved us from the Elenin threat. The peace prize winner was meant to be our saviour already before he got the price you see. Just as he was prepared to kill B. Ladin. And even if it is a lie most people believe it and that is enough to have him elected.
Dont remind me of NATO,
that murderous, children and civilian killing crime organisation! How can they have even one human on their side? With their GLADIO psychopaths hidden among us, ready to cause any massacre that their NATO crime bosses order. This dirty moraly low down killer organisation! They truely have lost every moral high ground, after openly comitting murder raids and robberies in innocent countries. Just hearing the letters NATO makes me want to puke!
I really love this post. thank you so much
Yes, thank you very much.
But we would apreciate it a lot,
if you would not advertise your
porno site on this Blog!
Would you like me to advertise medieval lithurgic singing on your porno site?
Don’t worry. Elenin could very well shake us up vigorously, turn the planet upside-down and brake down the old, and the cleansing will free us not only from AdultCentres, but also from N*A*T*O, Gladio, N*W*O, Zionism, Masonry and what have you. Certainly lots of people will terminate this incarnation, but only bodies die. Our souls are immortal and we will come back to build a new and better world here. That is what I mean with hope instead of fear…
Sorry to say, but you are quite childish for your age, because what you are describing, will not only free us from porno and Nato, it will free us of our life. It will kill us! And because this possibillity is contained in the Elenin Story, I want nothing to do with it. I dont know how often I have to repeat myself. Neither Elenin nor your personal religios believes have anything to do with the subjects of this Blog. So would you be so kind not to bother other people with your personal beliefes, since they are so kind not to bother you with theirs? And if you want to discuss incarnations and other after worldly beliefes, would you please do it somewhere else?
You are calling this Blog in degrading manner a “sandbox!, while at the same time you do everything to make a sandbox out of it. How must I understand this?
I find your personal beliefes repugnent, disgusting and offensive. So would you please be so kind to carry them where they are more appreciated?
So you still believe in death? Pity you… The soul IS immortal! You will see when the day comes…
If not: Why fear death, anyway? If it would be the definite end of you, you wouldn’t be there to worry about anything, anymore. So why worry now?
This way the blog IS a sandbox… Excluding aspects that could be very important, indeed.
What I beliefe in you dont know. And its none of your fucking business in the first place. And your repugnant anticipation of a soon to come mass death of people is none of my business. I find it deeply deeply deeply revolting, deeply repugnant! Go and carry your anticipated mass killing of people somewhere else! ITS DISGUSTING !!
Looking forward on a killing of masses of people! What are you doing on this Blog? Go, go and find yourself a black mass you can take part in. you disgusting, satanic, mass death anticipating monster!
Maybe you are the self-declared boss of this website and want to decide for the others what they should read, or not?
No other personal views but yours? Whatever other readers may be interested in?
That is just the way the NWO etc. work…
That is even somehow related to the way the Norwegian guy thinks: only his limited “ideology” – and get rid of all the others…
See certain parallels?
I do respect your views, but respect is supposed to be mutual.
But, my friend, I actually have said enough, for those to have eyes to read… Let it be good so.
Mass killing? Vastly misunderstood! Do I WANT it to happen what Elenin may do? The thing is only, that it MIGHT very well happen, and we should be prepared for that possibility. Or else we are naively sticking our heads in the sand…
And IF it happens it is no end, but can also be seen as a kind of cleansing.
Fare well…
What I beliefe in you dont know. And its none of your fucking business in the first place. And your repugnant anticipation of a soon to come mass death of people is none of my business. I find it deeply deeply deeply revolting, deeply repugnant! Go and carry your anticipated mass killing of people somewhere else! ITS DISGUSTING !!
Looking forward on a killing of masses of people! What are you doing on this Blog? Go, go and find yourself a black mass you can take part in. you disgusting, satanic, mass death anticipating monster!!
We have ENOUGH mass death scenarios already!! WE DONT NEED YOURS WE DONT WANT YOURS! Stuff it where the sun dont shine, your revolting mass death storys, where the bad ones will perish and left to rot, but the good ones will be saved and incarnate into something beautyfull. GO AWAY!! You are deeply deeply DISGUSTING. Your anticipation and your religios beliefes are a offense to me! They are a insult to humantity! GO AWAY GO AWAY GO AWAY! Find yourself a satanic mass, where you can cherrish in the many death bodies you so needely talk about and where you can dream of the beautyfull incarnation you so like to talk about. Go, and take your fucking satanic rituals with you!!!! GO AWAY !!!
You wrote yourself above – your own words:
“there is no doubt in my mind that it all comes down to a world wide war…” – so you, indeed, painted a death scenario there yourself! It is much the same.
I don’t say that you WANT it! But you yourself state that you EXPECT it. Shouldn’t we, then, be prepared for that possibility? Or naively look the other way…? It has been said that in a WW3 more can be expected to die than in WW1 and WW2 together. Shall I call you disgusting because you expect that to happen?
The Elenin stuff is much the same, just in a very different way.
You are raising fear where I want to show that there is also some hope…
WW3 or Elenin – it may be like the choice between plague and cholera… as the saying goes. If it cannot be another way, you may prefer the former, I may prefer the latter, since it is then not done by men.
I have now cancelled my subscription for this blog.
And: For the few survivors of a WW3 there is certainly a strict, satanic “New World Order” to expect and no freedom!
For the few (maybe even less few…) survivors of an Elenin catastrophe, there would be no more of that shit…
Truly, people!
Dont we have enough REAL CONTAMPORARY mass deaths?
The island massacre, Palestine, Lybia, Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Sudan, the horn of Africa, I am sure I did not name them all! Do we need more Dead humans, that might happen in the future? Have we not enough blood and guts on our tables already?? Must we anticipate even more and bring them from a uncertain future into our today? Who has a need for more dead bodies? I find the views that are brought forward by EUthanasia deeply offensive to my human feelings, I find them deeply repugnant, and I dont need them. I have enough contemporary stiffs on my mind already!! Let EUthanasia anticipate her ugly imagination of the future somewhere else! GO AWAY, and take your millions of stiffs with you!
Cant you see?
What you are describing, what you are anticipating in the near future, what you are rubbing into our faces so shamelessly, is the probable death of millions if not billions of us human beings, with most of them, THE BAD ONES!, laid to waste and rot away, while THE GOOD ONES!, and no doubt you belong to THE GOOD ONES!, will incarnate into something beautyfull and sprout wings or whatever, has NOTHING to do with LOVE and mutual understanding out of which could grow a better world. It has to do with HATE, AND REVENGE and the death of many many of us humans. What you are describing, anticipating in the near future and RUBBING INTO OUR FACES without any shame at all, is a SATANIC MASS DEATH RITUAL !!!!!! SO, will you please go away with your satanic mass death ritual, that is based on hate, on revenge and the death of millions if not billions OF US !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
244!!! – Time for Jane (or whoever) to post some new articles for Holunderstrauch to comment on.
Holunderstrauch all over the place. NICE
As disrespectful as ever. Only his opinion counts.
NICE.
without sharing EUthanasia’s views on that topic-
Holunderstrauch obviously is missing the point again..
Freaking out…his completely pointless insinuations are only too well known.
Jane never posts on weekends. Have’nt you noticed that yet? She is off work on weekends, like most people are.
By the way, how come only my opinion counts, when EUthanasia pushes her opinion at least as hard and not less rude, if one considers her drive to push something, not only nobody wants, but is also rejected quite clearly? Thats a very very familiar pattern, is it not? Say, where is EUthanasia? MH? Tell us. The show is over. It actually has been over for quite some time already. Its just that nobody told you. Good night.
Sure we have much more than enough contemporary deaths.
But in YOUR EXPECTED WW3 they would be BILLIONS (in European language milliards). And the winners would most probably impose a strict system we definitely don’t want: a global “New World Order”, enslaving the surviving. If there is a satanic mass death ritual, it could only be THAT!
IF – i.e. IF – Elenin causes a very big natural catastrophe, it wouldn’t be man-made and could be no ritual whatsoever. There could actually be more survivors than in a WW3. “Good” and “bad” would have to come together and find new ways in a broken down system.
(That be said, independent of the fact that souls are immortal … I’d rather come back in the latter world and have enough freedom, than in a mass-prison after a WW3 and have no freedom at all… and I may not necessarily want to survive a WW3 to experience that, either.)
Can’t you at least try to get it right?
Forget ir, EUthanasia MH, your vile and filthy game is OVER!
NO, he is incapable of that…
Forget it.
It might sound strang, but truth sometimes does: I can smell psychological movements in Persons I am in contact with. And EUthanasia and MH ooze the same psychological stench. One can split into two if one is schizophrenic in the first place. But certain psychopathological traits which come with the disorder, will show in both.
For instance pushing subjects which not only nobody wants to know about, since, obviously, almost nobody reacts to them, but are also being openly rejected, pushing them in a pathological rigidity which is typical for the disorder. This mad rigidity, if nothing else, blew your cover. You are much sicker then anybody has ever dared to imagined.
Tell me one thing, MH. In your postings you clearly show the habit of writing things like “Carlitos Amsel vom Holunderstrauch alias Karlos Hutterer sais: blablablablabla”, a passant abusing my real name which I not want to hide since I am for openess. But, see, as an answer to Emanuels post in which you were mentioned and you had reacted on in the described manner, I wrote “Jane believes, MH is being paid to destroy the Blog”.
Why have you circumvented this sentence so silently? Its a sentence you usually react to in the above described manner. So why did’nt you? Is it something you rather not have repeated to often? GO AWAY sick MH, you dont stand for a shred of good. You can claim I have insulted you and on and on, but even the bluntest fool sees that everyone of my posts was as a reaction to your destructuve ways. You just need to stop and I’d stop. But you know that. Your problem is, you cant stop, right? Because you are to sick to stop. Go away, stop haunting this Blog with your madness and seek professional help. Leave us in peace!
http://www.carlitos-amsel-vom-holunderstrauch.net/texte/janebuergermeister.html
Take a good close look, Emanuel, greenberry,
with what kind of disease ridden stuff we are being confronted with. And such rotten. lying, decieving, manipulating creatures talk to us about masons, about NWO? Just imagine! It is such satanic monsters, feeling themselfs at home in deceit, lie and manipulation, that we originally are fighting!
I haven’t “circumvented” anything – I’ve called it BS
that’s what it is.
And your Blablabla – is just the same as ever – and not worth the time. Mr Karlos Hutterer alias…Holunderstrauch (Why citing your dog’s name all the time?Is it YOURS – oh, it is?)
Oh no, it was NOT “your reaction” – is was your insane action…
starting right on top of multiple comment sections and filling lots of pages – for everybody to see
Everybody here, and even people who accidently find to here, will easily reccognize what you are, so dont bother to hide it, it wonr work, you are to well known by now.
Since I dont hide my name, nore my e-mail address, people write to me, they know what you are. You can go home now. There is not the slightest sliver of a chance, that anybody here will ever take you serious. YOU BLEW IT FOR GOOD! YOUR VILE COVER HAS LONG GONE! You may now stop your repugnant games. They have become useless…-
Oh yea, and dont forget to take your EUthanasia with you!
@Holunderstrauch
you mean by your libel of MH you are hiding in your “texts”?
I’ve answered to you openly here on this site. Maybe legal action could teach you something.
But my impression of you is anyway that you are a very sick person and somewhat really insane. So, not worth bothering.
Still you get the answer you deserve.
This site is not your site and it’s certainly not your sitting room or is it? So stop bossing people about.
The only thing you can do, is bother us, like you have done for the last two months or so, and you are very well aware, that this is, what you have done. But since everybody now knows what you are, it wont bother anymore. You may earn some pity for your desolate sorry state of being, but no more.
You did not have one person on your side, all this time of your deplorable activity, while various people stood on my side, and said so. There is not one person here who does not despise you and your doing, as you very well know. You know all of it, but you dont care. You can not hide any more, you are to well known as what you are.
You have been told by a elderly Gentleman from New Zealand, that he could not find one positive participation from you, while he found a lot of mine. You know all that, but you like to pretend you dont. But you can not hide anymore. You are known to everyone as what you are.
Not I, make this Blog to my personal playground, you do, with your never ending paranoid schizophrenic activity, and you know that, but you like to pretend, you dont. But you can not hide anymore. You are to well known as what you are.
http://www.carlitos-amsel-vom-holunderstrauch.net/texte/janebuergermeister.html
What will you do if I now stop to react? In that case you will have lost the last justification to exist. I bet, your private life is no different. Who would spend time with you, if not a ex psychiatrist like me?
Its so funny how you ignore the fact that I call you EUthanasia, just like you had ignored that I wrote “Jane sais MH is being paid” You have learned that things go away when you ignore them? Well, I promise you, they wont!
You dont use different names on this Blog, right? NO, you never would. You are the honesty itself, right? You are so laughable, or at least, you would be, if it were’nt so sad.
You are more then comical with your threat of “legal action” YOU DONT HAVE A NAME. I dont know you. YOU HIDE. Every state athorney would kick you out of his office, if you showed up with such crap! You had to come with a civil law suit. But then, you would have to put your own money down first. You would have to put your money where your mouth is. You have a big mouth, but I bet, you have no money. And even if you would, you would loose that law suit, because I’d bring every one of your movements of the last two month forward, all your fraud, deceit and your many names. You would loose the case and you would have lost your money. I have been to courts more then you have been to school. So you dont scare me with your empty, comical threat of a legal action!
MM News has reported, last year the Oslo killer had visited a speach of the ultra Zionist propagandist M i c h e l l e B a c h m a n n. This woman, Bachmann, http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&xhr=t&q=M+i+c+h+e+l+l+e+B+a+c+h+m+a+n+n&cp=31&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1006&bih=385&wrapid=tljp131218327224900&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi talks about things like, America must support Israel, or Armagedon wont arrive and Jesus wont come back. Its the total Jewish-Zionistic brainwashing event. A mental swamp for confused and manipulated people. So, we are inching closer to where our killer had recieved his brainwashing sessions.
ZIONISTS IN OSLO
Breviks 1500 page manifesto is being analized by alternative media sources trough out the world, from Australisa to India to France, Germany, England the USA. More and more it emerges was a nutcase the children killer is. His Manifesto is a mixture of lacking knowledge and dreams, his lack of knowledge regarding the backgrounds of events and social movements, would drive the shame into our faces it it would be our lack of knowledge. According to his world views, the guy seems to be an absolut idiot. But obviously a orchestrated idiot, because all his thinking supports in one way or the other the Zionists agenda. His main aim is to create a war against muslims. Who in this world, would want a war against muslims? Exactly!
It looks as if the mad children killer had actually been in the inner circles we know as the hidden architects of the NWO, and it looks as if he jumped ship, went on his own mission and by doing so, spilled a lot of the beans. We should pay much attention to the thinking of the Creep, expressed in his manifesto. It gives us a good peek into the inner workings of the crazy ones.
Here is a German example of what I said, that the Creeps manifesto is being analized:
… my “fraud and deceit and my many names” -
Oh, I’d be VERY interested to know about that,…Holunderstrauch.
Why don’t you bring forward your “evidence” ??
You don’t – there is none.
Oh, yes you’ve proven your insanity alright.
Go away. You dont eminate one single shred of something that could be considered as good. All you eminate is falsehood, deceit, manipulation, lies, threats and false names like EUthanasia. In my honest opinion, you are a sick and evil person. You are exactly the pathological type, people like us fight against. Go away! Find yourself a cosy satanic circle!
July 19, 2011 at 9:02 am
Email: jmburgermeister@gmail.com
“I am THE ONLY ONE not too stupid“ and “worthy of an answer“ by Jane (says Karlos Hutterer alias Amsel vom Holunderstrauch)
Telling malicious lies, lots of distortions and diversion, ridicule, grave insults / name calling, vulgar and extremely hateful curses, displaying hypocrisy, all kinds of threats, harassment and attacks (even against life:“Fuck you!! Fuck off!!Fuck off! Go, swallow ratpoison and die!“ “psychopathic Bitch“) qualifies for that
People asking reasonable questions (LETTERS TO JANE) on this site have been libeled “NWOdisinfo agents“ “a handful of people paid post all this crap“ “with the agenda to disrupt“ “normal people have a brain“ “forces of evil“ (says allegedly Jane in Holunderstrauch’s emails)
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Hopefully, people won’t be stopped (by tyrannical vicious attack dogs) from independent, critical and analytical thinking, from seeking the truth and sticking to the point. Asking uncomfortable questions is forbidden in the New World Order (“thought crime“) Asking questions is called “evil““madness“ “rubbish“ or “crap“. People who think independently and ask questions are called “psychopaths“ and „conspiracy theorists“ “bad girl“(Orwellian)
A “conspiracy theorist“ is anybody who pays any attention to facts and analysis. (says Paul Craig Roberts)
The New World Order: It’s about trampling and being trampled upon. It’s about no decency, no honour, no beauty. It’s about giving the ugliest, most sickening minds total power. Corrupt ruthless thugs get into power. The most vicious, psychopathic control freaks get into power to destroy everything. A full spectrum vicious scientific attac. It’s called NWO and eugenics. (says Alex Jones)
There she goes again, people,
although nobody is interested in the crap “MH says”.
You see, it never ends. For anybody who is interested in Psychopathology, here you can learn something, for this is the typical fingerprint of a paranoid schizophrenic psychopathy. You ought to be thankfull to MH, for giving you thhe oportunity to study this mental disorder in its seldom seen pure form.
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@EUthanasia
Carlitos Amsel vom Holunderstrauch says:
July 31, 2011 at 9:08 pm
Truly, people!
Dont we have enough REAL CONTAMPORARY mass deaths?
The island massacre, Palestine, Lybia, Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Sudan, the horn of Africa, I am sure I did not name them all! Do we need more Dead humans, that might happen in the future? Have we not enough blood and guts on our tables already?? Must we anticipate even more and bring them from a uncertain future into our today? Who has a need for more dead bodies? I find the views that are brought forward by EUthanasia deeply offensive to my human feelings, I find them deeply repugnant, and I dont need them. I have enough contemporary stiffs on my mind already!! Let EUthanasia anticipate her ugly imagination of the future somewhere else! GO AWAY, and take your millions of stiffs with you!
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…Holunderstrauch at his best… here he has found another object for his hate tirades
MH says:
July 31, 2011 at 9:54 pm
without sharing EUthanasia’s views on that topic-
Holunderstrauch obviously is missing the point again..
Freaking out…his completely pointless insinuations are only too well known.
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stating the truth is forbidden here
Holunderstrauch simply doesn’t like it.Freaking out…
MH Daisy,
your mother called.
She says she believes, you have stopped to take your medicine. I told her that I believe so too, since I see you living out the mentaly disturbed bitch again. You should know that your mom is very diapointed in you! She is now finaly contamplating my advice, to have you locked away in a loony bin…-
http://www.carlitos-amsel-vom-holunderstrauch.net/texte/janebuergermeister.html
@@@EUthanasia@@@
would you please be so kind and put that straight?
…Holunderstrauch’s paranoia… he really thinks that EUthanasia and MH are one and the same person!! That kind of thing is happening not for the first time… others have left over that before… it’s pathological
Accusing others but in fact always talking about himself (but he’s got no mirror…he can’t see himself nor others clearly)
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Carlitos Amsel vom Holunderstrauch says:
August 1, 2011 at 3:48 pm
Go away. You dont eminate one single shred of something that could be considered as good. All you eminate is falsehood, deceit, manipulation, lies, threats and false names like EUthanasia. In my honest opinion, you are a sick and evil person. You are exactly the pathological type, people like us fight against. Go away! Find yourself a cosy satanic circle!
On August 2. 2011 at 5: 32 am MH says:
“”@@@EUthanasia@@@
would you please be so kind and put that straight?
…Holunderstrauch’s paranoia… he really thinks that EUthanasia and MH are one and the same person!! That kind of thing is happening not for the first time… others have left over that before… it’s pathological
Accusing others but in fact always talking about himself (but he’s got no mirror…he can’t see himself nor others clearly)
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Carlitos Amsel vom Holunderstrauch says:
August 1, 2011 at 3:48 pm
Go away. You dont eminate one single shred of something that could be considered as good. All you eminate is falsehood, deceit, manipulation, lies, threats and false names like EUthanasia. In my honest opinion, you are a sick and evil person. You are exactly the pathological type, people like us fight against. Go away! Find yourself a cosy satanic circle!”"
You stupid woman!
Sure. MH and I don’t know each other, I suppose (I actually don’t know the identity of MH, but the probability that MH refers to someone I know is near zero) and we don’t communicate openly nor secretly between each other. If someone doesn’t want to believe that: His problem!
We are just two of the many who don’t buy all theories of a certain person.
Save it, MH, the psychological profile of EUthanasia and you is exactly the same. Realize it, you false satanic Bitch: Your dirty manipulative games are over. You are known and you have no more place to hide. So go and find yourself a nice and cosy little satanic circle you can join. Thats where you belong. Thats where your dark arts are being appreciated.
I am pleased to announce, that from the many many pages my Website has, there is, according to Statistic, particular attention being paid to the included page: http://www.carlitos-amsel-vom-holunderstrauch.net/texte/janebuergermeister.html
Since there is no link to this page nowhere on my website nor anywhere else exept on this Blogs comment section, many people who dont show their existence on this Blog by commenting, must be present anyway, and link from here to the above mentioned Webadress. This means, that thousands of people study MH’s activity, probably to learn, how disruption agents work and how to sniff out their activity. Is this not a surprising develepment???
I am sorry. I accidently wrote “thousands” link to the mentioned webaddress. That is not true. Thousands link on to my wesite. Its HUNDREDS that link from here onto the mentioned webpage on my website. This is correct. Sorry .
Now that you have spent many weeks, trying to divide us, disgusting satanic Bitch that you are, have you not learned that the only thing you have accomplished is, to divide yourself from all the rest of us? While we are together on channels you can not reach, you are being left out here by yourself, with your sickening mad rage, your hate and all your uglyness. Enjoy your life Daisy.
I value the courageous work of Jane very much and would give her all support I can, but it is obvious that the Elderbush (Holunderstrauch) pulls this blog far down and causes much damage to it. His uncontrolled emotional outbreaks hurts its reputation.and seems symptomatic of some kind of a psychological disorder. Mainly because of him, this section has almost 300 comments!!!! Since he is unable to accept and respect the views of others than himself. I suppose that he shaves without looking in the mirror, since he cannot see himself as and how he is.
You see Daisy, you are unmistakeble. And in your anger of being discovered, you let your ascerade slip and use writing stiles, only MH uses. You disgusting fraudulent Bitch!
To bad for you, this “Elderlbush” is in contact with Jane and had already extensive communication regarding your activity on this Blog. So you dont fool anybody. Sorry. Your game is up, and your creepy talks about how you value Jane, are easily unmasked as disgusting lies.
Poor you! You will probably believe that EUthanasia and MN are the same until you are pushing daisies (if you know what that means), since your are incapable of understanding that there are more who have similar options as we have (independently, without knowing each other). Anger? Pity is a more proper word… For whom? Guess!
Sorry, I mean MH… See, I don’t even remember the correct signature of him/her…
And now, dear Daisy, you must sit down and brace yourself, for I have very devasteting news for you. I am invited to travel to the city of munich to do some work there, and I must prepare for it. This means, the only contact you still have, after all others had gotten sick of you and left, will also have no more time to pay your sickening crap and your sorry person any attention. I am very sorry, that with this, your poor life will loose its last reason that made it worth living. But I have to work. This does not mean, that I wont keep an eye on this Blog any further. I will keep reminding everybody an who and what you are. So the best thing for you would be some honesty. Try to comment Janes articels with a honest heart for a change, like it has been pointed out to you by a reader already, instead of wrecking her Blog with gall filled hatred.
http://www.carlitos-amsel-vom-holunderstrauch.net/texte/janebuergermeister.html
My really onset heart for a change, and it will not me mine only, is that you quit this blog.
I had another opinion of you and even defended you against MH in an earlier section of the blog, but now my mind has changed completely.
While in München, go to the Hofbräuhaus and have at least two Maßkrüge…
The FF spell checker made “onset” out of what should have been “honest”, but was a bit mistyped…
EUthanasia says:
August 3, 2011 at 6:16 am
Sure. MH and I don’t know each other, I suppose (I actually don’t know the identity of MH, but the probability that MH refers to someone I know is near zero) and we don’t communicate openly nor secretly between each other. If someone doesn’t want to believe that: His problem!
We are just two of the many who don’t buy all theories of a certain person.
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Thank you, EUthanasia.
We both know that we are not one and the same person, but different visitors here on this site.
Holundertrauch won’t want to believe it.In a way he is insane.
You know, I really don’t care any more.
He loves bossing people around.
Always freaking out if someone is holding a different opinion to his own. Just a bore.
@EUthanasia
Thanks again – It’s good to see that you are not “afraid” of confronting some attack dog.
I would love to see more of your opinions here on the site –
Though I don’t know much about Elenin…myself.
The point is: different opinions must have their right!!
Welcome! I find it certainly motivated to pass on the very latest information from NASA about Elenin, since there is such massive disbelief and ignorance about it:
Its diameter (including its coma) IS 16 TIMES THAT OF THE EARTH!!!
See: http://spaceobs.org/en/tag/comet-elenin/
Draw your own conclusions…
Carlitos, please come back, vuelve, this two in one israel paid “literates” are boring!
To correct your mistake:
See what I wrote above about Yahweh and that the land Israel was not given to them in biblical times, but murderously stolen from the people who lived there before. The same they have repeated in the 20th century…
I suppose that it will be a lot more boring to you in September and October this year! (see above)!
@Fedupwithisraelians
don’t worry, he sure will come back… he always does…
Sharing his kind of paranoia?
Do you think, EUthanastya and MisterH your work really adds something to the readers? Stupid paranoid/s!!!
It does for those who are capable of understanding, but not for the simple-minded.
There has been talks about some heavenly body belonging to our solar system for 1000 of years back in history. The sumerians called it Nibiru. It is in modern times refered as to planet X. There are speculations or indications the planet may be inhabitated. Now I am just wondering why they call it Elenin? Giving something another name wouldnt change its identity. Would it?
To me this is not surprising or something new at all. It was expected so why that big fuzz?
Calling yourself EUthanasia doesnt change your identity or who you are even if there are other people who may believe so. The identification signs are there.
I am not going to fall for this Elenin lie. If there is a planet moving into our solar system 16 times the diameter of the earth there is no doubt we are in this case dealing with Nibiru.
Sorry, but Nibiru and Elenin most probably are not the same!
We’ll see who is lying in only a few weeks…
EUthanasia is my identity here, but if you mean that I am also MH, you are wrong.
Or do you mean that I would be someone else? Who?
I do not know but I am sure you wasnt named EUthanasia originally by the ones who produced you. I was trying to paraphrase that fact over Elenin and Nibiru. Did I mention or have I mentioned any specific other character of you in this blog? Why you talking about MH?
Did I mean that?
Of course Elenin is Nibiru, The Intruder which already the sumerians were talking about and originally named. Read some history and get yourself some education.
Maybe I should explain WHY I have taken up the subject of Elenin here. There is a lot of evidence that this astronomical object will cause a real shakeup of our planet already this year, and in view of that, all the things discussed here appear quite irrelevant. You may believe otherwise, but it still may happen… There have already been so many things people didn’t believe in that nevertheless have come true…
Masonic structures in this world, with Zionism, NWO and what have you, will most probably break down in the process, anyway, so that we need not really worry about them anymore.
I am convinced that mankind will survive but that we will in many ways have to start from scratch to build up a new civilization that will be far from NWO and such things as a Zionist globalism.
And that is where I see hope in all this…
NASA &Co know much more about it than they let us know. There is also a lot of evidence that the US are secretly preparing to save an elite in DUMBs – deep underground military bases, while they don’t care about what happens to us up on the surface. They don’t want us to know about this too early, because a stirred up population could interfere with their secret plans. But I strongly believe that this will fail and that the elite will be trapped in their underground shelters that become mass coffins for them.
As far as I am concerned, I don’t fear physical death since I know from experience that the soul is immortal. But this is something everyone has to make up his or her own mind about…
LOL. Havent you heard that this Elenins TCPA sun will occur at the 10th anniversary of 9/11? Just think about that coincidental happening and compare it to the probability of
such happening in reality. This is the clear evidence all calculations and predictions are staged to fit into the puzzle. Who make the calculations? Is it somebody you expect to hear any truth from? And (Ele)ven(nin)e is fitting so nice into it. Just in time for the coming elections of the U.S. president. When Obama and NASA is saving the world from the evil Elenin he will sure be a prominent NWO leader. This was exactly the same strategy they used last time in Sumer when enslaving the people to bring them all their gold. As I said before. Read history and acquint yourself to reality.
Project it to present time. Their presence in the old sumerian territory Iraque and the presence in Libya. The search for gold which clearly is of great importance to the inhabitants of Nibiru. Can you see the pieces starting to fall together?
Hi, EUthanasia (you see Greenberry is easily falling for Holunderstrauch’s misleading paranoia crap – blind followers everywhere – a pity)
As I’ve said before – I don’t know much about ‘Elenin’ or else – but the following sounds very true:
“NASA &Co know much more about it than they let us know. There is also a lot of evidence that the US are secretly preparing to save an elite in DUMBs – deep underground military bases, while they don’t care about what happens to us up on the surface. They don’t want us to know about this too early, because a stirred up population could interfere with their secret plans. But I strongly believe that this will fail and that the elite will be trapped in their underground shelters that become mass coffins for them.
As far as I am concerned, I don’t fear physical death since I know from experience that the soul is immortal. But this is something everyone has to make up his or her own mind about…”
Unfortunately it is on the contrary dear EUthanasia. I am the one who suggested to Carlitos your identity. At first he did not believe it…..
But now it is coming so evident clear to anyone. Cant you just show some honesty and admit what you are up to. As for me I do not think you are getting paid. I believe you need
help and I mean it. Havent I told you this before? Long before it became evident you needed professional help. It is not an insult.
It is of humanitarian reasons. If I did not care I wouldnt tell you.
I am telling you to break down in tears admitting to us all your terrible state of mind and let us help you.
You mean that experiment, where you shit in your own brain, you feel no different afterwards and then you concluded, what you feel now must be your immortal soul?
Dont be fooled. The comment section is under control of an agent who is paid to disrupt the Blog. The agent uses the names MH and EUthanasia and others. Both, MH and EUthanasia are one and the same person. The agent worked for weeks to destroy the comment section by continuos interruption by interference. Now the agent is trying to control comments and discussions by guiding them into harmless waters by pretending comments and discussions between different persons, while all the time its one and the same person! Dont react on what this agent writes, but look at the overall outcome of it. Take a look at the comment pages of the last weeks articles and you will see. Notice that my name is active. I am not an anonymous person like the agent. Here you will find the whole story: http://www.carlitos-amsel-vom-holunderstrauch.net/texte/janebuergermeister.html
Who pays you? I am a retired pensioner and wouldn’t mind some DECENT extra income… Put toilet paper in your ears or else the shit will pour out there!
And I don’t give any of your brain shit for your symptomatic belief that EUthanasia and MH are the same. Believe what you want, but you would have to prove it. Else it stands as another of your paranoias, fearing secret agents around each and every corner… (have you checked for one under the toilet seat before you sit down?). If anyone disrupts the blog, it is you!
Sorry about the language, but I’m trying to imitate yours.
I know that YOU are not anonymous, but nearly everyone is in this blog, so why shouldn’t I be, too?
Hi EUthanasia,
ich sag’s jetzt mal auf deutsch:
Er ist einfach bekloppt – was soll man da machen?
IGNORIEREN.
Er wiederholt ohnehin nur immer wieder den gleichen Quatsch.
He is nuts. Ignoring is the best.
Why should you stay anonymous, seen these accusations, if you are only “a retired pensioner”? Help clear the air and come out of your hiding in a believable manner. Since when do retired pensioners need to hide? You would help us define MH whos activities throughout the last weeks, all the disruption by interference, clearly shows the attempt to wreck the comment section. (and I am not the only one who thinks so. as you can see on some of the coments, and even Jane herselfs believes so) Thus, comeone, and crawl out from under the stone you are hiding under and show yourself in a convincing way.
Oh, but maybe you are the mother of MH and the apparent psychopathological rigidity of pushing subjects that clearly are rejected by all except your alter ego, is part of the family genome?
Sorry you got it wrong, but I’m the great grandfather of MH…
I value the work and courage of Jane very highly, but you pull it down in the drain.
I followed theflucase,com until the end and very well understand why Jane distanced herself from it. At the end she was insulted like you do to people here. I wonder how she feels about your destructive influence in this blog. It seems that she should better distance herself from you, too.
You and Jane will be the only ones not anonymous here. Do respect all the other’s wish to be so, so far.
Listen, rotten satanic Bitch! Where has your demand for Janes “authenticity” and all that crap gone, with which you harrased and interrupted commentators in long identical posts for weeks?
What had you convinced to stop that method? It could’nt have been my words. I will tell you, rotten satanic Bitch that you are, what made you stop it: You senced that you did not get any further with it since I ridiculed you to much on it, so you switched over to attacking Carlitos Amsel vom Holunderstrauch, Herr Karlos Hutterer, instead.
What would you care, giving up your first method and leaving all them demands for !authenticity and all that crap unresolved, and switching to another technique, since the outcome is still the same?
You dirty rotten satanic piece of shit! You dont fool anyone, and to your grief, you recognize it.
Do whatever you wish, Bitch, but I will never stop to point out to people, what you are! You can go on forever and I will point out to perople forever, what kind of satanic, paid for Bitch you are! After all the weeks you have cracked down on this Blog and I have fought you, I will NEVER allow you to go on with your dirty work undisturbed!
Satanic? Oh!
You will now what they say: “Don’t throw stones if you are in a glass house”…
Did_nt you try to ridicule me, for driving up the comments count “alonst reach 200″ or something like that? So what are you doing no, you fraudulent piece of shit full of falshoods and deceit?
Look, the simple fact is, everyone who experienced the last weeks or even the last days on this Blog, KNOWS WHAT YOU ARE, and who does not, just has to take a look at your actions during that time to know that you are being a dirty paid for piece of shit. And whoever is still confused, will find answers here: http://www.carlitos-amsel-vom-holunderstrauch.net/texte/janebuergermeister.html Everybody knows you, even if you now so cunningly distract from the “retired pensioner” that you ought to proof yourself to be, piece of crap that you are.
And now I will leave you to yourself again and to your alter ego MH. You can write to each other, being a paranoid schizophrenic, that should’nt be to difficult for you to do…-
Sorry about you. You have got it all wrong.
Your reaction is very interesting, from psychopathological aspects.
@EUthanasia –
and as you very well know – I’m not your alter ego…not part of a “schezophrenic mind” as claims poor …Holunderstrauch…
His psychopathic mindset lacks the capability of realizing all that
It’s a pity, EUthanasia.
And as you are experiencing his assaults yourself – it’s obvious that trying to explain is a useless endeavour
He is really sick.
And he can’t stand for himself, always manipulatively trying to rally others behind him.Maybe in the course of his criminal vita he’s got experienced at man hunting and gang-raping (of any sort) Obviously he has difficulty in dealing with any woman in her own right and strength. Difficulty in dealing with any woman having her own mind (different to his) and acting accordingly He’s blaming his mother…and ferociously fighting any female defending her own opinion different to his…
Not everyone is as simple-minded to fall for his crap.
People are not as stupid as that (and visitors of this site aren’t either)
Just one more remark, since you are so unbelievable STUPID!
So, you try to convince people, MH and EUthanasia are two different persons, but then you allow both to exhibit the same stupid rigidity and persistance so typical for paranoid schizophrenics, just to make sure everybody notices, that you are one and the same. You are so FUCKING STUPID!
Very primitive (and revealing), regrettably, it could hardly get lower…
See?
Thanks for proofing me right!
Now your time is up. Go, and
talk to yourself again…-
You know, I feel like making fun with an extremely angry dog at the other side of a fence…
So – we should all be convinced of the approach of a comet or an unseeable heavenly body, eh?
What might it do???
Severe radiation burns?
Electrocution?
Burst ear drums?
Earthquakes?
All of them?
Civil protection services are increasingly focused on handling these types of catastrophe scenarios today.
A Comet?
What if the military was just planning to set off micro-wave weapons or sonic weapons to destabilize and frighten everybody out of their wits and take over in the resulting chaos?
Well, seems those who have swallowed the gullibility pill obediently will shout ‘Elenin! – see I was right!’
I guess the press would also shout ‘Elenin!’
But if it’s just the sonic or microwave weapons?
Then what?
How many decades before the truth regarding the ‘event’ seeps out?
Nikolas Tesla made astounding discoveries concerning the electro magnetic field of the earth at the beginning of the 20th century. This knowledge has gone into armaments, into tectonic warfare, into HAARP. Read around if you need facts.
Tesla was financed by J.P. Morgan, by Westinghouse. Secrets secrets secrets. And patents patents patents.
And now, I should blindly believe against my common sense, and under the present circumstances of universal deceit that:
A Russian astronomer named Ele(ven) Nin(e), says that in 9/11 (that is the ninth month of the year 2011), a comet is just going to impact the earth from nowhere just in time for the economic collapse of world finance?
Well, I don’t think so. Perhaps the world populace will be attacked. It would make sense to do it now if you want to stage a coup.
That would be no cosmic event.
Just the usual man made Imperial Crime.
There is no reason to believe much of the NASA predictions and calculations of “Elenin”.
It may even be some object that have been sent up there by themselves in secret to create fear and confusion to the masses.
Thanks, @@@darkside@@@,
@@@greenberry@@@
Throughout history, the ruling elites have baffled common people with cosmic spectacles they could mathematically forespell, but claimed, they are mighty enough to have CAUSED them. I have learned that elites stick to methods that have worked in the past. So, why should it be any different in this case. The only difference will be, like I sayd befor, when the subject was being pushed, its going to be a cosmic smokescreen for some man made evil.
@darkside @EUthanasia
“Sorry about you. You have got it all wrong.
Your reaction is very interesting, from psychopathological aspects.”
(EUthanasia says: August 6, 2011 at 9:20 am to Holunderstrauch)
EEthanasia, as you well know – I’m not your “alter ego“ and not part of a “schizophrenic mind“ as claims poor Holunderstrauch…
His psychopathic mindset is incapable of realizing that.
In experiencing his assaults yourself, you know by now that trying to explain is a meaningless endeavour
He is really sick.
….blaming his mother… and obviously any female in her own right and strength…He has difficulty in dealing with any woman having her own mind different to his. He is ferociously fighting any woman defending her own opinion different to his (lamenting about female “rigidity“ when not giving in to his preposterous insanity)
And he can’t stand for himself. Always manipulatively trying to rally others behind him. Maybe in the course of his criminal vita he’s got experienced at man hunting and gang raping of kind ( his “Afghanistan war narrative“ may as well have been another of his lies – he loves showing off “I saw people die left and right of me because they succumbed to the torture.” )
Only simple-minded ones fall for such a crap
People are not as stupid, and visitors of this site aren’t either.
“Maybe you are the self-declared boss of this website and want to decide for the others what they should read, or not?No other personal views but yours? Whatever other readers may be interested in?That is just the way the NWO etc. work… “ (EUthanasia says to Holunderstrauch: July 31, 2011 at 8:10 pm)
I could see the same parallels before…and couldn’t agree more
See you, Euthanasia!
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as to ‘Elenin’ – I simply don’t know what to make of that –
“Perhaps the world populace will be attacked. It would make sense to do it now if you want to stage a coup.That would be no cosmic event.Just the usual man made Imperial Crime.“ (darkside says:
August 7, 2011 at 7:19 am)
….given the Elites’ preparations over decades (DUMBs, DOOMSDAY storages) that might be true or vice versa…
One thing we do know for a fact – WE don’t belong to “their Elitest Club“ and their plans are evil ones – and there are turbulent times coming – And I definitely agree with EUthanasia’s spiritual approach as well
WOW!
This is “so strong”!
Listen, MH Bitch,
I warn you,
if you cant come up with anything more intelligent then this to disrupt our comment section, you will loose your job as an disruption agent. I might have to search for your employer and have a chat with him, to tell him, that crappy work of yours just wont do any longer…
http://www.carlitos-amsel-vom-holunderstrauch.net/texte/janebuergermeister.html
MH says:
August 7, 2011 at 8:46 am
@darkside @EUthanasia
No insane attack dog has been addressed – so would you please shut up…
Well, but I have addressed a insane attack dog, that wrote its hate filled shit only four posts above this one. You know, the insame attack dog that has written under:
MH says:
August 7, 2011 at 8:46 am
Yes, exactly. That hate mongering insane attack dog with its hate filled attacks that disrupt our comments, as shown above. You know, the usual paranoid schizophrenic one?
He can’t disgrace himself any further -
but we shouldn’t forget – he is a sick man
How about calling for “Dr greenberry” again?
Does greenberry know any better? I’m afraid not.Sorry to say…
They both got it all wrong.
I can only help you if you see for yourself you are in need of it. And that does not necessarily be a guarantee of success. But it is a humanitarian offer and not an insult.
I do respect your opinions but do not care so much for cloughing the comment section with personal attacks. That is not what this is about at all. First step is to realise that and hopefully that will help you a long way.
Your comments are so constructive,
that we can’t live without you.
@greenberry @Dr greenberry – another “schizophrenic mind“?
greenberry, some time ago I gave you a “humanitarian advice“ myself in pointing out to you the mindset of that Holunderstrauch attack dog, remember?
A pity that you still don’t want to listen.
And you got it all wrong. Shame on you…
How come that Holunderstrauch doesn’t accuse YOU of using “false and different names“?
In your case it’s REALLY TRUE
You’ve got at least two different logos and at least two different names….What about examining YOUR own “schizophrenic mind“…
Don’t you see how silly that is?
Oh well, you are succumbing to him
that makes it all different…
THINK TWICE was once a so called “false name“ I’m accused of having used…
Holunderstrauch is blind, so he can’t see or he just ignores the logo…which has ALWAYS been the same…
greenberry, your colour has changed not mine…
But Dr greenberry is just as naive as greenberry is… What a pity.
Dr. greenberry was deliberately created ONLY for one reason. To prove to everyone it is easily done for one person to have different logos with different names. If Dr. greenberry was created for reasons other than that I hope you understand another name had been choosen not so obvious similar. Like the differences EUthanasia and MH for example.
THINK TWICE having the same logo is easily seen to be the same person and does not necessarily be of shizophrenic nature since it could be corresponding to the article commented. It is worse when changing the logo and the name in a secret manner pretending to be another person. That is what I would classify being a sick action. Just admit it. Stop it and get yourself cured.
When doing so it is of cheating and unfair nature. Like double or tripple voting in an election to have their votes to count more than once. To make people believe there are
more than one person having the same opinion as MH. That is distorting reality and if you go with it you sure deserve to be living in such false and sick world built on that policy. Other think money is a way of making their opinions count more than once. As you may already have observed. This is not going to lead to any success in the end. It will lead to disaster and collapse only.
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the typical signs of mental disorder aside, is it not a telling symptom, that everytime MH is present, EUthanasia is not and the other way around? What kind of medication sould we advice in such a case?
@greenbeery
You and that attack dog – you are both SICK SICK SICK…
Not worth commenting.
@EUthanasia @darkside
Do you see how sick this is?
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there is not a single person around who considers MH a sane person, and she does not care to proof them all right multiple times each and every day for weeks and weeks on end. Its the paranoid schizophrenic “Ghost Driver Syndrom”, named after persons who drive on the wrong lane, seeing all the trafic coming towards them, wondering why everybody is driving on the wrong lane
It would be so funny, if it were not so sad and if it would not disturb comments and discussions on this Blog. Since many weeks, MH has not posted one single message that was not a personal attack on others, but she calls others “attack dogs” (Ghost Driver Syndrom)
She is totally fucking insane, but nobody can do a thing about it. Her life must be frightening to live. I bet, she is a totally lonely, left to herself person. I am sure its preferable to swallow rat poison then live her kind of life…- Pity pity pity…
After what MH has done on this Blog for weeks and weeks on end, there is NO WAY, no way at all, that anyone on this Blog will ever consider her a sane person or someone who does not carelessly and deliberately destroy this comment section.
So, all she can do from here on is to attack us further with her disgusting hatred and disturbe the comment section as much as she can, the way she has done in the past. And since her mental disorder wont allow for anything else, that is what she will do.
@all visitors
blubberblubberblubber….
what a sick person!!
Once more:
MH and EUthanasia are different visitors of this site -
constantly being harassed by a very sick individual Karlos Hutterer alias …Holunderstrauch – paranoid, schizophrenic whatever that mental/neurological disorder may be called
(I’m quite sure he’s got his diagnosis)
Yea,
right,
I am the one whos “sick”,
and you are the one that
shows, for everyone clear to see,
all the symptoms
Well, I understand now… His video imitation (?) in his nutshell of Alex Jones’ voice indicates that the Elderbush “Holunderstrauch” and Alex may be the same person. By the same logic as he uses to “identify” two of us as being the same.
It only puzzles me that what he says as Alex makes a lot more sense…
No,
actually,
the truth is not as hate and disease ridden as your thoughts.
The simple truth is, I posted that nut shell video,
because I found it funny and I wanted to share it
with others, thats all…-
Your desparation makes you shed your cover, MH, since the same kind of ugly hatred that you carry in your soul, already shines through in EUthanasias messages….-
Yes, dear Carlitos, it is really funny and I think that it is good that you show some humor, too.
I merely took it as an opportunity to comment about your believing, still…, that I and MH would be the same person.