Flashback: My email to Glenn Thomas in April 2014 (five years after my first contact)


Jane Burgermeister <jmburgermeister@gmail.com>

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Jane Burgermeister <jmburgermeister@gmail.com>

3 April 2014 13:22

To: thomasg@who.int

Dear Glenn Thomas,

 

With reference to our phone call, could you please tell me what is the WH0 pandemic level alert for the Ebola virus outbreak in Guinea? Are their plans to move to pandemic emergency level 6 soon?

 

Also, are you aware of any conflicts of interests for the pariticpants listed in WHO’s consultation on Ebola in 2009.

 

http://www.who.int/csr/resources/publications/HSE_EPR_2009_2.pdf?ua=1

 

Many thanks for your help!

 

Jane Burgermeister

Jane Burgermeister <jmburgermeister@gmail.com>

3 April 2014 14:34

To: “Härtl, Gregory Anton” <hartlg@who.int>, thomasg@who.int

Dear Gregory Hartl,

 

I think my query below is more appropriately addressed to you as spokesperson for epidemic diseases.

 

Thank you, Jane

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HARTL, Gregory Anton <hartlg@who.int>

3 April 2014 14:37

To: Jane Burgermeister <jmburgermeister@gmail.com>, “THOMAS, Glenn Raymond” <thomasg@who.int>

Dear Ms Burgermeister – we no longer use pandemic phases 1-6. And we have never looked at Ebola in that light. Moreover, I do not think there could ever be a scenario where Ebola could become pandemic. Only airborne viruses have a possibility of that. Ebola outbreaks have only ever been very localised events.

 

Thank you,

 

 

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Gregory Härtl

WHO Spokesperson

Coordinator, News, Social Media and Monitoring

Department of Communications

Director-General’s Office

World Health Organization

 

Tel: +41227914458

Mobile: +41792036715

Email: hartlg@who.int

 

Twitter @HaertlG/@WHO

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From: Jane Burgermeister [mailto:jmburgermeister@gmail.com] Sent: 03 April 2014 13:35 To: HARTL, Gregory Anton; THOMAS, Glenn Raymond Subject: Fwd: Query

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Jane Burgermeister <jmburgermeister@gmail.com>

3 April 2014 14:47

To: “HARTL, Gregory Anton” <hartlg@who.int>

Thank you. The Austrian national plan is still in force and uses pandemic phases 1 to 6. Can you explain thi?

 

What phases do you now use, please? Please send links to the relevant documments

 

How do these new phases mesh with existing national pandemic plans?

 

Also, there is research showing Ebola can be transmitted by air.

 

Please do tell if you are aware of any conflicts of interest among the WHO Ebola experts.

 

Thank you for Information.

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HARTL, Gregory Anton <hartlg@who.int>

3 April 2014 14:59

To: Jane Burgermeister <jmburgermeister@gmail.com>

Cc: “CHAIB, Fadela” <chaibf@who.int>, “GEHNER, Monika” <gehnerm@who.int>, “HUMPHREY, Helena” <humphreyh@who.int>, “JASAREVIC, Tarik” <jasarevict@who.int>, “JIN, Yan” <jiny@who.int>, “SETIOGI, Sari Priscilla” <setiogis@who.int>, “THOMAS, Glenn Raymond” <thomasg@who.int>

Please see the following document:

 

http://www.who.int/influenza/preparedness/pandemic/influenza_risk_management/en/

 

As for Australia and its phases, you should ask Australia.

 

Concerning airborne transmission of Ebola, that is only considered possible in a lab and if there is a lab accident, not from an infected person in a natural state.

 

And I am not sure I understand your question about Conflicts of Interest: how can there be, when there is no vaccine and no antivirals available for Ebola, and the treatments that are being trialled are from already-existing drugs?

 

Thank you,

 

 

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Gregory Härtl

WHO Spokesperson

Coordinator, News, Social Media and Monitoring

Department of Communications

Director-General’s Office

World Health Organization

 

Tel: +41227914458

Mobile: +41792036715

Email: hartlg@who.int

 

Twitter @HaertlG/@WHO

Facebook Page http://www.facebook.com/who

Google+ Page http://gplus.to/WorldHealthOrganization

YouTube http://www.youtube.com/who

Instagr.am @worldhealthorganization

 

From: Jane Burgermeister [mailto:jmburgermeister@gmail.com] Sent: 03 April 2014 13:47 To: HARTL, Gregory Anton Subject: Re: Query

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Jane Burgermeister <jmburgermeister@gmail.com>

4 April 2014 09:25

To: “HARTL, Gregory Anton” <hartlg@who.int>

Cc: “CHAIB, Fadela” <chaibf@who.int>, “GEHNER, Monika” <gehnerm@who.int>, “HUMPHREY, Helena” <humphreyh@who.int>, “JASAREVIC, Tarik” <jasarevict@who.int>, “JIN, Yan” <jiny@who.int>, “SETIOGI, Sari Priscilla” <setiogis@who.int>, “THOMAS, Glenn Raymond” <thomasg@who.int>

Thank you.

 

According to the new guidelines and the FAQ, WHO still has the power to make the equivalent of a pandemic emergency Level 6 declaration, now termed a publich health emergency of international concern (PHEIC).

 

“The term Public Health Emergency of International Concern (PHEIC) is defined in the IHR (2005) as “an extraordinary event which is determined to constitute a public health risk to other States through the international spread of disease and to potentially require a coordinated international response”. This definition implies a situation that: is serious, sudden, unusual or unexpected; carries implications for public health beyond the affected State’s national border; and may require immediate international action.3

 

“The responsibility of determining whether an event is within this category lies with the WHO Director-General and requires the subsequent convening of a committee of health experts – the IHR Emergency Committee.

 

Under the Interim Guidelines any declaration will be based on “risk assessment.”

 

“In line with the main focus of the guidance, where risk management actions are based on risk assessment, the declaration of a pandemic will also be based on risk assessment.”

 

http://www.who.int/influenza/preparedness/pandemic/GIP_FAQ_GuidancePhasesGuidance_May2013.pdf?ua=1

 

The document states this may involve “collective global action” and  be a”trigger for certain regulatory actions, or for legal or contractual agreements to come into effect. “

 

http://www.who.int/influenza/preparedness/pandemic/GIP_FAQ_GuidancePhasesGuidance_May2013.pdf?ua=1

 

An Emergency Committee will advise WHO to make this pandemic declaration.

 

“The Emergency Committee, which will be formed to advise the Director General of WHO, will consider all available information, including country information, assess the risk and provide the necessary advice.”

 

My questions to you are:

 

1) what is your risk assessment of the Ebola Virus at present?

2) has WHO convened the Emergency Committee?

3) does WHO plan to convene the Emergency Committee and make a PHEIC soon on the Basis of risk assessment?

4) who are the members of this Emergency Committee?

5) the document specifically states that a pandemic declaration may legal or contractual agreements. What are these agreements? Are they agreements to supply antivirals and pandemic vaccines?

If so, please supply full details of all these agreements. (Drug, quantity, pharmaceutical Company)

Please confirm if these are same pandemic vaccines with adjuvants now proven to cause narcolepsy?

6) given the existence of such agreements, presumably with pharmaceutical companies, isn t the issue of conflict of interest perinent?

Isn t it somewhat ingenious to say there are no antivirals or vaccines now while ignoring the apparent existence of “contractual agreements” to supply them at a later stage?

However, if you would prefer, I will rephrase the question: do the members of the Emergency Committee and WHO’s Ebola advice committee have links to pharmaceutical companies? This is something surely of public interest.

7) The document states the “declaration of a pandemic may be used to communicate the need for collective global action to manage the risks of a pandemic. ” Does this collective global action include the possibility of forced vaccination, forced quarantine as before? Are the implementation of national pandemic plans including forced vaccination obligatory in the event of a WHO pandemic declaration?

 

 I am sure WHO has learnt from the 2009 pandemic when a perceived lack of transparency did so much to damage its credibility. I look forward to a productive working relationship where you assist me in accessing relevant and accurate Information speedily to bolster public confidence in WHO and its decison making process.

 

Many thanks! Jane Bürgermeister

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

“The responsibility of determining whether an event is within this category lies with the WHO Director-General and requires the subsequent convening of a committee of health experts – the IHR Emergency Committee.

 

May I rephrase my question if you do not see an immediate conflict of interest.

 

My question now is:  Are you aware of any links with pharmaceutical companies of the 16 participants?

 

Thank you.

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HARTL, Gregory Anton <hartlg@who.int>

4 April 2014 09:49

To: Jane Burgermeister <jmburgermeister@gmail.com>

Cc: “CHAIB, Fadela” <chaibf@who.int>, “GEHNER, Monika” <gehnerm@who.int>, “HUMPHREY, Helena” <humphreyh@who.int>, “JASAREVIC, Tarik” <jasarevict@who.int>, “JIN, Yan” <jiny@who.int>, “SETIOGI, Sari Priscilla” <setiogis@who.int>, “THOMAS, Glenn Raymond” <thomasg@who.int>

Hello. I will not answer Number 1 except to say that the RA in no way leads us to thinking of an EC. So some of your questions are not relevant. See answers in to relevant questions in capitals below. Thank you

 

 

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Gregory Härtl

WHO Spokesperson

Coordinator, News, Social Media and Monitoring

Department of Communications

Director-General’s Office

World Health Organization

 

Tel: +41227914458

Mobile: +41792036715

Email: hartlg@who.int

 

Twitter @HaertlG/@WHO

Facebook Page http://www.facebook.com/who

Google+ Page http://gplus.to/WorldHealthOrganization

YouTube http://www.youtube.com/who

Instagr.am @worldhealthorganization

 

From: Jane Burgermeister [mailto:jmburgermeister@gmail.com] Sent: 04 April 2014 08:26 To: HARTL, Gregory Anton Cc: CHAIB, Fadela; GEHNER, Monika; HUMPHREY, Helena; JASAREVIC, Tarik; JIN, Yan; SETIOGI, Sari Priscilla; THOMAS, Glenn Raymond Subject: Re: Query

 

Thank you.

 

According to the new guidelines and the FAQ, WHO still has the power to make the equivalent of a pandemic emergency Level 6 declaration, now termed a publich health emergency of international concern (PHEIC).

 

“The term Public Health Emergency of International Concern (PHEIC) is defined in the IHR (2005) as “an extraordinary event which is determined to constitute a public health risk to other States through the international spread of disease and to potentially require a coordinated international response”. This definition implies a situation that: is serious, sudden, unusual or unexpected; carries implications for public health beyond the affected State’s national border; and may require immediate international action.3

 

“The responsibility of determining whether an event is within this category lies with the WHO Director-General and requires the subsequent convening of a committee of health experts – the IHR Emergency Committee.

 

Under the Interim Guidelines any declaration will be based on “risk assessment.”

 

“In line with the main focus of the guidance, where risk management actions are based on risk assessment, the declaration of a pandemic will also be based on risk assessment.”

 

http://www.who.int/influenza/preparedness/pandemic/GIP_FAQ_GuidancePhasesGuidance_May2013.pdf?ua=1

 

The document states this may involve “collective global action” and  be a”trigger for certain regulatory actions, or for legal or contractual agreements to come into effect. “

 

http://www.who.int/influenza/preparedness/pandemic/GIP_FAQ_GuidancePhasesGuidance_May2013.pdf?ua=1

 

An Emergency Committee will advise WHO to make this pandemic declaration.

 

“The Emergency Committee, which will be formed to advise the Director General of WHO, will consider all available information, including country information, assess the risk and provide the necessary advice.”

 

My questions to you are:

 

1) what is your risk assessment of the Ebola Virus at present?

2) has WHO convened the Emergency Committee? NO

3) does WHO plan to convene the Emergency Committee and make a PHEIC soon on the Basis of risk assessment? NO

4) who are the members of this Emergency Committee? Not relevant

5) the document specifically states that a pandemic declaration may legal or contractual agreements. What are these agreements? Are they agreements to supply antivirals and pandemic vaccines?

If so, please supply full details of all these agreements. (Drug, quantity, pharmaceutical Company) THERE ARE NO VACCINES OR ANTIVRIALS FOR EBOLA

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Jane Burgermeister <jmburgermeister@gmail.com>

4 April 2014 10:47

To: “HARTL, Gregory Anton” <hartlg@who.int>

Cc: “CHAIB, Fadela” <chaibf@who.int>, “GEHNER, Monika” <gehnerm@who.int>, “HUMPHREY, Helena” <humphreyh@who.int>, “JASAREVIC, Tarik” <jasarevict@who.int>, “JIN, Yan” <jiny@who.int>, “SETIOGI, Sari Priscilla” <setiogis@who.int>, “THOMAS, Glenn Raymond” <thomasg@who.int>

Thank you.

 

In response to your statement that RA in no way leads you to thinking of an EC, may I simply ask for WHO’s current RA of Ebola.

 

Do you have a RA? If not, why not? If so, what is it?

 

It must be asked why does the WHO RA in no way leads WHO to think of an EC when WHO’s own documents state the Basis of an PHEIC your RA?

 

Also, please answer the following questions.

 

1) What is the RA and EC of the nation of Guinea given that each state now has more Independence to make ist own RA and EC under the Interim Guidelines.

 

2) Where can I find out Information about the RA and EC of each nation state on the WHO website.

 

3) If Guinea declares an EC, a) does the Guinea national pandemic plan foresee forced vaccination b) are there concrete plans in place for the implementation of forced vaccination.

 

 

4) As to question 5), you have not answered my question about the contractual agreements which exist according to your own documents and that is why I must insist on an answer.

 

In spring 2009, there were also no vaccines for swine flu we were told – but these vaccines were quickly produced in summer 2009 because there were contractual ageements to produce them…

 

Please answer my question on the contractual agreements specifically. What are the contractual, legal and other agreements which could be triggered by a PHEIC?

 

5) Even if the names of the Emergency Committee are not relevant in your opinion, they proved very relevant in 2009 when it transpired that the members had links to pharmaceutical companies. In 2009, WHO also withheld these names and it became a scandal.

 

Is your claim that the names are not relevant really true in the light of the Events of 2009? Or is another attempt by WHO to conceal information of public interest about links to pharmaceutical companies?

 

On balance, most people familiar with WHO and ist activities in 2009 will think the later. It is in WHO s interest to be completely transparent and supply the names of the members of the Emergency Committee to avoid accusations of hiding conflichts of interest a second time.

 

6) As I understand it, under the 2013 Guidelines, a country like France can declare a pandemic emergency independently of WHO over the Ebola virua and — eventually when pharmaceutical companies supply the vaccines as they did in 2009 — implement voluntary or forced vaccination. Is this correct?

 

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Jane Burgermeister <jmburgermeister@gmail.com>

4 April 2014 11:09

To: Carolyn Dunning <dunning_carolyn@yahoo.fr>, Christian Cotten – Politique de Vie <chriscotten@wanadoo.fr>, autreinfo@free.fr, Sos Justice <contact@sos-justice.com>

Chers Amis!

 

Je crois qu il est possible que la France peut declarer une pandemie emergencie — il s appelle aujourd hui Public Health Emergency of International Concern (PHEIC) ou EC — independent de WHO Sous le nouvelle plan de 2013. Voirs mes emails avec WHO au dessous.

 

Alors, il est tres important de voir quelle RA (assessement de risque) est Emergency Concern status, la France a pour l Ebola.

 

Aussi, je veut demander si vous pouvez trouver les documents sur Ebola  sous ces links, copier et m envoyer comme texte dans une email.

 

Je ne peut pas les accesser sur mon computer. Je crois qu’ils sont bloques pour mon IP addresse.

 

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21987751

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15588056

 

Excusez ma francais! Jane

 

 

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HARTL, Gregory Anton <hartlg@who.int>

4 April 2014 11:49

To: Jane Burgermeister <jmburgermeister@gmail.com>

Cc: “CHAIB, Fadela” <chaibf@who.int>, “GEHNER, Monika” <gehnerm@who.int>, “HUMPHREY, Helena” <humphreyh@who.int>, “JASAREVIC, Tarik” <jasarevict@who.int>, “JIN, Yan” <jiny@who.int>, “SETIOGI, Sari Priscilla” <setiogis@who.int>, “THOMAS, Glenn Raymond” <thomasg@who.int>

 

The RA is still being finalised.

 

But let me emphasize that Ebola has nothing to do with pandemics. It is not a virus which is considered to have pandemic potential.

 

Thank you, and I wish you a good day,

 

Gregory Härtl

 

 

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Gregory Härtl

WHO Spokesperson

Coordinator, News, Social Media and Monitoring

Department of Communications

Director-General’s Office

World Health Organization

 

Tel: +41227914458

Mobile: +41792036715

Email: hartlg@who.int

 

Twitter @HaertlG/@WHO

Facebook Page http://www.facebook.com/who

Google+ Page http://gplus.to/WorldHealthOrganization

YouTube http://www.youtube.com/who

Instagr.am @worldhealthorganization

 

From: Jane Burgermeister [mailto:jmburgermeister@gmail.com] Sent: 04 April 2014 09:48

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Jane Burgermeister <jmburgermeister@gmail.com>

4 April 2014 17:37

To: “HARTL, Gregory Anton” <hartlg@who.int>

Cc: “CHAIB, Fadela” <chaibf@who.int>, “GEHNER, Monika” <gehnerm@who.int>, “HUMPHREY, Helena” <humphreyh@who.int>, “JASAREVIC, Tarik” <jasarevict@who.int>, “JIN, Yan” <jiny@who.int>, “SETIOGI, Sari Priscilla” <setiogis@who.int>, “THOMAS, Glenn Raymond” <thomasg@who.int>

I am afraid you have not answered my questions.

 

Surely, you do not wish to give the impression of evasion and of concealment after the scandalous behaviour of WHO in 2009.

 

Surely, you wish the public to have confidence that you are acting in their interests – and not in the interests of pharmaceutical companies as in 2009. Only if you answer the questions accurately, can the public judge for itself. A refusal to be open in this context will be seen by many as an indirect admission of guilt.

 

I insist on an answer because the public has the right to information given the clear potential with the Ebola virus for a repeat of the false pandemic of 2009.

 

France is already ordering special measures to contain the Ebola Virus. Given this fact, how can you claim the Virus has no pandemic potential?

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